(06-26-2019, 06:09 PM)hb1148 Wrote:

(06-26-2019, 06:16 AM)JackCity Wrote: "If you look at his last two seasons, he's played at a better than average level. You could make the argument that he played as well or better than Wentz last year during the regular season." 

The 7 game sample size is the entirety of his 2018, and it is below average for sure.  

Don't forget to add in the other stats for Foles 2018 and Wentz 2018:

Wentz: ypa 7.7, ay/a 7.9 , any/a 6.89
Foles: ypa 7.2, ay/a 7, any/a 6.50  

So yeah other than completion % (which can usually be explain by ypa) and your QBR stat Wentz was easily better. Actually, Nick Foles QBR over the last two regular seasons would have ranked 26th out of 33 qualifying QBs this year, just behind Josh Allen.

Also, "a lot of philly fans think so" is totally incorrect, a minority of Philly fans wanted to let Wentz go and keep Foles. A simple eye test would be enough for most to pick the younger, more dynamic and better QB to stay in Philly, but if you want to go the stats route he wipes the floor with him too.

By completion percentage, QBR, and also YPG. There are some other stats where Wentz is better. Like I said, the point is that a case could be made that he was the better player. Just averaging the stats over the last two season doesn't take into account that Foles only started 3 of the 7 games he played in.  Compared to other starters in 2018, among players with multiple starts, he was 2nd in C/P, 8th in YPG, and 9th in QBR (right ahead of Tom Brady). That's above average. 

Nick Foles averaged more pass attempts per game so I'd certainly hope he'd have more ypg. The vast majority of the stats Wentz is ahead, you can keep your ypg and completion % lol If you're trying to prove Nick Foles is better using stats at least be aware of what stats you're using and which ones matter. 

Mitchell Trubisky was 4th in QBR, I certainly hope you don't think he was the 4th most effective QB in 2018 do you? 10 picks and 8 interceptions in 7 games is not good however you want to spin it, and thats ok. He was amazing in 2017 for the games that mattered.  

You said a lot of Philly fans thought keeping Wentz over Foles was a mistake, implying thats a majority opinion, when in reality its a minority opinion. I'm all for rooting for Foles and thinking he can be effective enough for us this year, there's just no need to blow everything out of proportion instead of just taking him for what he is

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(06-26-2019, 02:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-26-2019, 02:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: There is a good few scenarios where Foles is a lot better than Blake and still not good enough and disappointing. I think we should judge him relative to the rest of the league and how much success he has Vs just being better than Blake. 

I think with the division being much stronger and being unlikely to repeat 2017s defensive #s we'll still need a passing attack that's above average to make some noise and hit the playoffs.

...which is exactly why they ate Blake’s money, signed Foles and hired Flip.

yes? I'm not sure I've disputed any of that in the slightest

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