(07-02-2019, 09:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: (07-01-2019, 05:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Then it is no longer a Reparations For Slavery movement and becomes a Reparations For A Hundred Years of Legalized Housing Discrimination, Employment Discrimination, and Education Discrimination movement, which then opens it up to the descendants of the Chinese, Japanese, Irish, Italians, Jews, American Indians, and myriad other groups. We'll all just pay each other $20 and call it even.
American Indians have gotten a lot of consideration already, and maybe should get more.
As for the others, they faced private employment discrimination, but not much else.
They did not get forced into separate public schools.
They did not get their neighborhoods marked as "no-go" zones for FHA loans.
They had equal access to government jobs (the Wilson administration famously fired a lot of black clerical and postal workers, and re-segregated the rest. But Catholics and Jews went unscathed)
The discrimination that Jews and Catholics faced was more private than public. If reparations are owed, they would be from private individuals. I say this with both types of people in my family tree.
But where do we draw the line... what discrimination is allowed and not allowed?
What types of discrimination call for reparations.
Slavery only?
Indentured servants, as much of the Irish were, may not technically been slavery, but mistreated much in the same ways.
How about the Japanese that were rounded up IN AMERICA after Pearl Harbor put into camps.... should their descendants be paid reparations? Or was the 20k per encamped person enough?
How far back do we go?
Perhaps we owe reparations to the British for the American Revolution?
It's a rabbit hole we just shouldn't be going down.
(07-02-2019, 01:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: (07-02-2019, 12:21 PM)Kane Wrote: wut?
First of all... if every group that has ever been discriminated against if owed something....
I need my cut, I'm 60% Irish.
I know Japanese Americans that could probably get something.
It could go on and on....
I don't care what the reparations are for..... I will not support setting such a precedent.
In 10 years the LGBQT community could be coming with their hands out....
and at that point anyone could claim to be gay and Chuck and Larry the whole thing.
Reparations don't make sense. However new legislation, if needed, or proper enforcement of current laws and regulations is always welcomed.
You don't have to wait 10 years, it's already starting now with the alphabet soup of sexual abnormalities being celebrated last month.
Eh, they can celebrate if they want. Doesn't bother me. Just don't ask for special treatment, reparations, or mistake my tolerance for acceptance.
Also... if a straight pride parade happens... I don't want to hear any sissies whining about it.
I'm pretty liberal when it comes to stuff like marriage equality.
But when someone starts talking about digging around in my pockets I get pretty far right about it lol