(07-06-2019, 10:58 PM)rollerjag Wrote: Point 1 - Everyone else was doing it is not a valid excuse.

Point 2 - Comparing the treatment of Irish, Italian, Asian, Jewish and any other immigrant to the treatment of African slaves and how they were treated for at least 100 years after they gained freedom is the worst false equivalency ever imagined.

Point 3 - If we are all descendents of slaves, who can tell us where and when it happened?

Point 4 - I comb my hair to cover it.

Carry on with your silly debate.

Point 1 - I don't feel anyone on here is trying to say it's a valid excuse. The primary argument is "Where do you draw the line in the sand and stop demanding reparations for something that's been over with and done for nearly 100 years?". We've come a long way from the days of Billie Holiday's Strange Fruit and Emmett Till's beyond barbaric beating and death which was recently confirmed that it had be established off a woman's lie? 

We're all well aware that despite the abolishing of slavery and just before and after the civil right's movement that we had some racial tension in this Country. We're all collectively reminded of this every February with Black History Month. But, the issue is that while all of this is constantly being dredged up. What is the ultimate intended purpose of it and who is being aimed at directly?

Plantations, cotton picking, lynchings and overseers are no longer a thing in this Country. I mean, modern day socialites can argue otherwise about it being "modernized" but don't let that get in the way of actual progression in this Country. 

Point 2 - You're basically repeating Point 1. So what's the point of point 2? This isn't a matter of a game of "Let's see whose suffered more". Plenty of historical facts can support that a great deal of all races and religions at some point or points in various markers on our lowly timeline of existence have suffered at the hands of another for a plethora of excuses or barbaric reasons. Why should black people get a pass? Especially in 2019? When there's just as many black people in all fields of life in this country shining brightly and serving as inspiration or a reason to have pride? 

Point 3 - That's completely up to where you're getting your information from, who and what you seek, and what the timeline was. We do know that Egyptians may have or may not have built their empire on the backs of slavery. It depends on whether or not you want to believe in the Bible and certain stories in that book. You could look at most of Europe's history which has been cut and diced for centuries over entitlements (whether justifiable or not), resources, religion (mostly propagated by fanatics who sought total control beyond just church but also state and wealth), etc. 

I mean. Take your pick man. It's not a debate at this point. It's just bull [BLEEP] being spewed at an ad nauseam level and it needs to eventually come to a head. This way of thinking, this old world "Well, you did this to my ancestors X years ago, so therefore, you owe me Y now or else I will do Z later" is stunting growth in this country. I think if people spent less time finger pointing at each other across the aisle or at our neighbors and spent more time following the paper trails, the money, the primary beneficiaries of all of this well crafted hate and misdirection we would all be much happier in due time. 

Have a nice and blessed Sunday good sir!

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