(07-08-2019, 11:35 AM)Jags02 Wrote:

(07-08-2019, 07:29 AM)NH3 Wrote: I too dislike the window of opportunity scenario but it exists w/most teams. 

The Saints and Rams geared up last year for that push because of said windows. Teams like the CHEATERS, Steelers and Packers do an good job of releasing players w/high cap #s but they don't make splashes in the playoff drive to the SB. Except for the CHEATERS. 

We the Jaguars has an window of opportunity before the front office will have to jettison players like Myles Jack, Bouye and Campbell just to name a few. At this point, in my opinion, we do not have their replacements on the roster via the NFL draft. We did an good job of drafting Bryan early but we need to do Much Better in this category of drafting for the future instead of the present. Success does cure this BUT.

NH3...

I wish people would stop including Bouye on lists like this. Bouye and Ramsey being out there together give the Jaguars an elite secondary. Without Bouye we go from one fo the few best to being practically crash. Ramsey can over cover half the field, and you can't just find another guy who can cover as well. Keep in mind that Bouye can basically cover just as well as Ramsey. The only reason you list him behind Ramsey is he's not as great at getting those INTs, but that doesn't mean we're ok parting with him.  The day Ramsey or Bouye depart you can pretty much say the Jags window is closed.

In disagreeing with you, I do not, in any way, impugn Bouye as a player.

Bouye has been, without question, the best RCB/#2 CB in team history and enables us to match up favorable against most receiver groups.  As an underdog, UDFA who made it big, he seems to embody what it means to be a Jaguar.  But there are reasons he is included on lists of players to potentially jettison.

He is older.  He will be 28 next month.  While he is still in his prime, he will soon be an age where his skills are at risk of decline. 

He is expensive.  He signed a big money deal a couple of offseasons ago, and has a substantial cap hit-some $15 million each of the next few seasons according to https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville...uye-12795/  Between signing Ngakoue, Jack, and Ramsey, we will likely need that cap space to sign these guys.

He is "expendable."  While he is undoubtedly invaluable to our defense now, and his cover skills help make the defense special, don't forget, we are still at a defensive advantage with Ramsey, who can take away half the field.  There have been plenty of good-great defenses with just one cover CB, including the Seattle Super Bowl teams, the Dungy era Tampa teams, the Dallas Super bowl winning teams of the 1990s, and others.  If we can get competent S play/coordinating, and can keep a bevy of young pass rushers like Ngakoue and Allen, we can adjust for having "just Ramsey."  Furthermore, history has shown you can find CBs late in the first round and beyond.  The Bills just drafted Tredavious White late in the first round a few years back.  There have been guys like Patrick Surtain and Sam Madison found in the second round.  Greedy Williams, considered by most to be the best CB in this most recent draft, was obtained in the middle of the second round. 

I have enjoyed the level of play and consistency that Bouye has provided the Jaguars since his arrival.  I have long believed that when a team has two excellent players at a position, it provides excellent match up advantages.  Looking at our own history, in the 1990s, the Jaguars had two dominant tackles in Boselli and Searcy and two excellent WRs in Smith and McCardell.  They contributed to one of the most lethal passing attacks in the latter half of that decade.  Later, the team added two dominant DTs in Stroud and Henderson, and our run defense in the JDR era was stifling during that time.  The strongest running game we had in our history featured two great RBs in Fred taylor and MJD.  Our defense the last few years has given us two dominant pass rushers in Ngakoue and Campbell, two outstanding LBs in Poz and Telvin Smith and later Jack and Smith, and two stud CBs in Ramsey and Bouye.  However, cap realities probably mandate we can't sustain all of this talent on the roster.  The best we can do is minimize the damage and cultivate younger cheaper talent.  I love Bouye, but I don't think he should cost us Ramsey or Ngakoue (though I don't think Bouye will cost us Ngakoue-I think if we alienate Ngakoue, the Bortles deal is what did it).

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