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Welp...looks like a holdout.


(07-31-2019, 04:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(07-31-2019, 12:52 PM)Rico Wrote: He pays his agent to make these decisions.  If you aren't listening to your agent...why do you have him?

Understood, but it seems hiring an agent is akin to hiring a lawyer or a financial advisor; you're hoping they're working in your best interest and not for the commission. Is risking his health for another year (and potentially suffering career ending injury) by playing under his current contract better than compromising? From what I understand, the F.O. was darn close to offering what was asked. Holding out for marginal money seems a little risky. But what do I know?

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The player hires the agent (and his firm) to handle the business aspect for the players, and the agent is paid a percentage of the contract, rarely a fixed or even capped amount.  The agent is judged most often by prospective new clients, the lifeblood of the agent's firm, by the size of the deals acquired on behalf of their clients.  For future business purposes, firm's financial incentive, and client's satisfaction, the agent will try to get the most money he can in deals for his clients.  If you asked NFL players what is the most specifically important job of your agent, the majority would indicate that it would be to get them the most money (the more guaranteed and AAV the better) in a negotiation with a team, with reasonable terms.  I am sure the agent understands the ramifications and risk for the player to play under the current under-market terms, as opposed to taking a discounted deal (based on perceived current DE market) currently on the table.  On the flip side, the team understands their cap situation and their desire to keep a highly productive and disruptive 24 years young DE beyond only 2 years.  Good agents advise their clients of the negotiation process/status, market, risks, and realistic goals/expectations.  Most agents tell clients (players) to let them do their job and trust their ability to negotiate the best deal; however, some players in these status discussions have told their agents to stop further negotiation as they feel the deal is fair enough and do not want the risks or further delay in playing.  Ngakoue is advised of Jaguar offerings, and has the ability to override the advice of his agent.  Most players follow the advice of their agents.
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Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-23-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-23-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-23-2019, 07:09 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-23-2019, 07:12 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by BigJohn98 - 07-23-2019, 07:15 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-23-2019, 07:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-23-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by surfon - 07-23-2019, 10:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 12:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 11:48 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 12:10 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 12:22 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NH3 - 07-24-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 02:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 02:48 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by SamusAranX - 07-24-2019, 07:54 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by I am Yoda - 07-24-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 07:25 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by I am Yoda - 07-24-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-24-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:42 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Perkolater - 07-24-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 10:31 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFanFirst - 07-24-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Caldrac - 07-24-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:50 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Dimson - 07-24-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagshype - 07-24-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 01:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by mikesez - 07-24-2019, 04:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-24-2019, 03:37 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagibelieve - 07-24-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by surfon - 07-24-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by EricC85 - 07-24-2019, 09:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-25-2019, 05:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-25-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Upper - 07-25-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-26-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by MikePete54 - 07-27-2019, 09:20 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 07-29-2019, 03:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JakobeSVT - 07-30-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NH3 - 07-30-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Upper - 07-30-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by wrong_box - 07-30-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Mowerguy - 07-30-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-30-2019, 02:49 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 07-30-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-30-2019, 02:57 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-31-2019, 12:23 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-31-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 06:01 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 08:50 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Jagwired - 07-31-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-31-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Adam2012 - 07-31-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-31-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Adam2012 - 08-02-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 08-02-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by mikesez - 08-02-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-01-2019, 03:15 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-31-2019, 03:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 07-31-2019, 02:42 PM
Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Caldrac - 07-31-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagibelieve - 07-31-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-01-2019, 04:15 PM
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RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-01-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-01-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-01-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-01-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Setsuna00 - 08-02-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 08-02-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Mikey - 08-05-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-04-2019, 06:22 PM
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RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 07:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 05:43 PM
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Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-05-2019, 06:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 07:07 PM
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RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-08-2019, 04:36 PM
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RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 10:17 PM
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