(08-02-2019, 07:28 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(08-02-2019, 06:41 PM)JackCity Wrote: NYC, I'm calling it one of the worst based on everything we know right now.  

Right. And I’m telling you that we know so little about the group right now that calling them one of the worst groups in the NFL is unwise.

Calling it one of the worst relative to other TE groups based on everything we know right now is accurate to me and I'm a big Oliver fan. I don't have a problem if others think it's a good group or just want to call it a question mark before committing either way (that's fair!)

When the likes of Swain and JOS prove they are good and productive players I'll count them as such. The same applies to the Texans Oline, the dolphins Oline etc etc. 

I would see the opposition if I was saying "The Jags TE room is awful no matter what and nothing that happens this year will change my thoughts on that" but that's not what's happening. I'm very happy with Dline and CB relative to the rest of the league.

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(08-02-2019, 07:14 PM)knarnn Wrote:

(08-02-2019, 06:41 PM)JackCity Wrote: NYC, I'm calling it one of the worst based on everything we know right now.  The Texans have the worst offensive line in the division based on everything we know right now. That isn't a definitive rank of where they will be by the end of the season , it's , very specifically , based on the paper of what we know.  If their rookies hits and Matt Kalil turns randomly good and their interior plays well then suddenly they might not be a bad unit. But we don't know any of that yet, we can only judge them on the current info

I don't know why you think an analysis of our position groups current strength =s anything other than judging it based on what we know about the group currently. It's a pretty simple concept to be honest.  

I think the Dolphins have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL despite new starters on it. Most NFL fans would agree on that based on everything we know right now, if they start playing well over the weeks then we can update our views relative to how other NFL lines play. I'll be doing the same with our TE group and pretty much every other position group.

FWIW:

Quote: The Jaguars' tight ends continued their strong camps. James O'Shaughnessy brought in a 30-yard pass from Foles. Geoff Swaim made several grabs, including a touchdown in the back of the end zone from Tanner Lee. Charles Jones, who will get more reps while Josh Oliver is sidelined with a hamstring injury, caught two passes and continued to impress.

https://www.genjag.com/jacksonville-jagu...ogtsePqRpg

Yes I've been following. Hopefully it plays like an effective group in the regular season

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