Create Account


Board Performance Issues We are aware of performance issues on the board and are working to resolve them! The board may be intermittently unavailable during this time. (May 07) x


The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show significantly less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.
Welp...looks like a holdout.


(08-05-2019, 06:54 PM)p_rushing Wrote: I posted this in the other thread, but I'll out some of it here.

It doesn't matter what amount he wanted or how long of a deal he wanted. He is never getting the $19 million for this year back. Also he was never going to see the 5th year and maybe not the 4th year of a long term deal. He would either be cut after year 3 or want a new contract.

He is already under contract for this season and at $19-20 million for next season with the tag. His contract was most likely offered for 3 years and would have been close to a guarantee. So if he plays well enough to get a $19-20 million deal, he is getting tagged.

Then he will sign a deal somewhere in year 3. After risking 2 seasons without a guarantee for injury.

So he signs after 2020, but then there is a threat of a lockout from the CBA. So FAs may not sign until after the deal and it may be a rush to sign. He may also have to sit out a long time without a paycheck. Maybe he gets an increase because of the new rules, but who knows.


So at the end of this, he loses $19 million, gains some money in year 3, but not enough to offset the $19 million. So he should just take the Jags 3 year deal and sign again during the 1st full offseason after the CBA. He could set the market price then if he was worth it.

Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk

The leaked deal was for 2 years. With no info about guaranteed money , money at signing or anything else important to judging how good a contract is.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-23-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-23-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-23-2019, 07:09 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-23-2019, 07:12 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by BigJohn98 - 07-23-2019, 07:15 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-23-2019, 07:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-23-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by surfon - 07-23-2019, 10:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 12:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 11:48 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 12:10 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-24-2019, 12:22 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NH3 - 07-24-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 02:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 02:48 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by SamusAranX - 07-24-2019, 07:54 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by I am Yoda - 07-24-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 07:25 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by I am Yoda - 07-24-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-24-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:42 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Perkolater - 07-24-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by knarnn - 07-24-2019, 10:31 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFanFirst - 07-24-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Caldrac - 07-24-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:50 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-24-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Dimson - 07-24-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by B2hibry - 07-24-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagshype - 07-24-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2019, 01:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-24-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by mikesez - 07-24-2019, 04:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-24-2019, 03:37 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagibelieve - 07-24-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 07-24-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by surfon - 07-24-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by EricC85 - 07-24-2019, 09:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 07-25-2019, 05:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-25-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Upper - 07-25-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-26-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by MikePete54 - 07-27-2019, 09:20 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 07-29-2019, 03:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JakobeSVT - 07-30-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NH3 - 07-30-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Upper - 07-30-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by wrong_box - 07-30-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Mowerguy - 07-30-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-30-2019, 02:49 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 07-30-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-30-2019, 02:57 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 07-31-2019, 12:23 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 07-31-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 06:01 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 08:50 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Jagwired - 07-31-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-31-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Adam2012 - 07-31-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 07-31-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by homebiscuit - 07-31-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Adam2012 - 08-02-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 08-02-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by mikesez - 08-02-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-01-2019, 03:15 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 07-31-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 07-31-2019, 03:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 07-31-2019, 02:42 PM
Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Caldrac - 07-31-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jagibelieve - 07-31-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by ATLjag - 07-31-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-01-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-01-2019, 04:40 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-01-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-01-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-01-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-01-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Setsuna00 - 08-02-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 08-02-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Mikey - 08-05-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-04-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Cleatwood - 08-04-2019, 06:57 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 07:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 05:43 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by MightyRx - 08-04-2019, 08:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-04-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 08:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by I am Yoda - 08-04-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Eric1 - 08-04-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by RicoTx - 08-05-2019, 07:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 07:34 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFan81 - 08-05-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-05-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-05-2019, 11:03 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-05-2019, 11:09 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-05-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFan81 - 08-05-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-05-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-05-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-05-2019, 09:21 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-06-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-06-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-06-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-06-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-07-2019, 09:13 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-07-2019, 09:22 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 04:25 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 05:57 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-05-2019, 04:02 PM
Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-05-2019, 06:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 07:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by surfon - 08-05-2019, 10:16 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-05-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 08-05-2019, 08:15 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 09:03 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-07-2019, 09:06 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 09:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-07-2019, 09:17 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-07-2019, 09:08 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-07-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by nhiverson - 08-07-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-07-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Bullseye - 08-07-2019, 02:51 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-07-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-07-2019, 01:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by nhiverson - 08-07-2019, 01:17 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-07-2019, 01:27 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-07-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-07-2019, 02:44 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Hard_Eight - 08-07-2019, 03:42 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-07-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-08-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFan81 - 08-08-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 01:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by scottyg - 08-08-2019, 04:13 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by MarleyJag - 08-08-2019, 04:21 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-08-2019, 01:56 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JagFan81 - 08-08-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-08-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 04:52 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 08-08-2019, 09:31 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 08-08-2019, 10:17 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Kane - 08-14-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jags_r_bake - 08-14-2019, 03:07 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by Jagwired - 09-14-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by MarleyJag - 09-14-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by jags_r_bake - 09-14-2019, 11:11 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 09-14-2019, 01:54 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by JackCity - 09-14-2019, 08:23 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2019, 07:37 AM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Welp...looks like a holdout. - by p_rushing - 09-14-2019, 11:21 PM



Users browsing this thread:
5 Guest(s)

The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.


ABOUT US
The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!