(08-05-2019, 04:41 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 03:49 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Bingo!

If the negotiations only had impact on Ngakoue, then perhaps I am overly nervous.

But it goes beyond Ngakoue.

If others see the team acting unfairly towards one of its biggest play makers and defensive catalysts, they may be biased against the team when it comes to re-signing themselves.

I have already seen articles referring to grousing over how the FO treated Bortles with a new deal when he didn't deserve it.  I also saw the Hays Carlyon tweet about some players having a negative view of the FO.  

If there is anything to these reports, it doesn't bode well in light of these negotiations.

No, the team should not give away the farm to every player who asks for it.  But if anyone has earned a big payday, it's Yann.

I hope they will soon come to terms on a new deal and put all this negative stuff behind them.

Here is former Jaguars' DL Austin Lane's perspective:

https://twitter.com/BrentASJax/status/11...91267?s=20

Interesting that Yannick and Fournette share an agent. After how the guaranteed money went with Lenny (whether you think it was warranted or not) there was likely already some friction between that agent and the office prior to negotiations.

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(08-05-2019, 04:26 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think a lot of fans just aren't used to this because we haven't had any decent players recently.  Teams go through this kind of thing every year.  

Meanwhile, he's going to try to have a big season so he can get a big contract, either from us or from someone else.  That's a good thing.  

And if we still can't sign him at the end of the season, we franchise him.

Nah I understand the process perfectly. They're either paying way more or losing him eventually, both options are poor decisions

Not really.
He's been averaging 10 sacks per year and top 5 in pressures.
If he balls out above that, he's earned more, and you know you have an elite pass rusher, as opposed to a very good one.
If he stays on average, they negotiate around where they were before with the tag in pocket, and he loses out on big money THIS year.

I don't think you understand how leverage works. The teams really have all of it until the new CBA is written.
This guy is locked up as a Jag for a couple seasons if we want, or we recoup some draft equity in a trade..
Yan is only getting older, and every year young guys enter the NFL money hungry.
We have Josh Allen who by all accounts is very good.

The only way Yan gets paid way more than 20 mil per year, is if he is clearly one of the best pass rushers this year. Odds are in Jags favor.


I want them to get him locked up as much as the next fan. But I can't be mad at how the team is going about it, especially since NONE of us truly know what was offered and declined.

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