(08-06-2019, 10:56 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(08-06-2019, 10:07 AM)Kane Wrote: Not really.
He's been averaging 10 sacks per year and top 5 in pressures.
If he balls out above that, he's earned more, and you know you have an elite pass rusher, as opposed to a very good one.
If he stays on average, they negotiate around where they were before with the tag in pocket, and he loses out on big money THIS year.

I don't think you understand how leverage works. The teams really have all of it until the new CBA is written.
This guy is locked up as a Jag for a couple seasons if we want, or we recoup some draft equity in a trade..
Yan is only getting older, and every year young guys enter the NFL money hungry.
We have Josh Allen who by all accounts is very good.

The only way Yan gets paid way more than 20 mil per year, is if he is clearly one of the best pass rushers this year. Odds are in Jags favor.


I want them to get him locked up as much as the next fan. But I can't be mad at how the team is going about it, especially since NONE of us truly know what was offered and declined.

Nah thats not how it works. If Yannick simply maintains his current performance (which is as an elite pass rusher btw) and you sign him long term next March say, he's going to be paid more because A) Cap goes up B) Other pass rushers have gotten contracts (Bosa, Clowney etc etc) and C) Making agent and client annoyed can't help. 

Contract numbers shift so much each year, just look at the LB contract market exploding due to FA, they dont remain stable at all. So if you want him long term and he plays at the same level or better then you're naturally playing more than you would right now.  


Yes they can keep tagging him, but you'll end up paying more over the course of that, and make it harder to keep long term. Or you tag and trade him so he's not hear long term anway. 

So yeah, you are either paying more or Yannick won't be here long term. Both are bad outcomes for the team imo (with the caveat that may still get it worked out midseason but seems highly unlikely based on all reporting right now)

Yan is worth about 20 mil per year right now... right there with the top guys. If he gets 10 sacks this year... he's still only going to be worth about 20 mil per year.
If he outperforms that, we shouldn't mind paying more because he shows he has another level... 

Just to be clear, I'm not doubting his value, or worth, or saying he hasn't earned a deal.
All I'm saying is his leverage is limited and the team is probably going about this the right way, despite what a few fans think.

I'm still optimistic a deal gets done.... and I'm wondering if Yan has an issue with the front loaded style where the team tends to have the ability to cut ties after 2-3 years and he wants locked in longer. If that is the case... a deal may not get done.
If we trade him, whether tag and trade or otherwise, we'll recoup plenty of value. If he's as good as you think, he'll command a high draft pick, and we'll have plenty of cap space to handle Ramsey and Jack no issue. 
And with Allen here I'm not sweating it if we have to make a tough choice to move on from Yannick.

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