(08-23-2019, 07:46 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(08-23-2019, 07:21 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: Only two impressions from last night. 


First is Josh Allen looks like Khalil Mack, he's going to be an all pro player for years if doesn't suffer some kind of major injury.

Second is Foles is just a middle of the road QB and will need to be carried by the defense and running game, so the Jaguars didn't gain much by moving on to him.

Bonus take: the sloppy kisses Minshew gets around here puzzle me, he looks like just another backup level QB, could have signed someone if his quality in free agency instead of needing to use a draft pick.

So pay, at best, vet minimum for production you could get from a 6th round rookie. Brilliant!

Or, the argument could go,  sign a young udfa for less per year than a 6th round pick.  I'm not taking sides here, and not jumping on Minshew,  but Taysom Hill was a udfa in 2017,  was in camp with the Packers,  who cut him going down to 53 and brought in by the Saints.  The Bills have Tyree Jackson this year,  udfa QB.  Again, not bashing Minshew, just saying that the argument that someone similar could be gotten through fa doesn't require that QB would have to cost more.  The Jaguars liked Minshew enough to draft him,  a 6th round pick isn't much for a backup who really hasn't looked terrible despite scoring few points in many quarters. 

Some teams have a backup who they don't want to start games, but is good enough to finish a game.  Maybe that's the Jaguars.

I'd be mostly worried about the fact that the first 4 drives were almost entirely 1) the new, expensive and presumably good new QB 2) the top first round RB who has had at least 1 very good year and 3) the leading WR from last year who most would argue is the Jaguars best WR.  4 drives, almost all plays were either Foles to Fournette or Foles to Westbrook.  3 and out, then 3 and out,  then TD w/ big assist from 28 yard pass interference to Conley (only pass not to Fournette or Westbrook in the first 4 drives) and interception.

Westbrook was 4.1 yards per target.  29 yards,  4 catches, 7 targets.  Not great.  Fournette was 3.9 yards per carry.  Not great, not terrible, but not great.  2/3 for 19 yards receiving was a little better for Fournette.   But these 3, these are the stars, right?  These are not the stats of stars who win you games.  You can watch each of Foles, Fournette and Westbrook and take out the highlights, and ignore the low points and say "well we're good if there are just the highlights".  Ok, maybe.  And, it's preseason, and that doesn't matter.  

A lot of teams though,  they would put their starting QB out there, the starting QB goes 6/6 with a TD,  with a 120 passer rating and comes off the field.   That kind of performance is kind of what would be expected.  A lot of the starting QBs who are considered "good" have been doing something like this.  Here, it was not that.   Not something to worry about, but something to look at.  One point might be that Foles was throwing against a defense who had been practicing and was trying, vs week 1, when a lot of the QBs were doing well out there with their 6/6 performances.

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