(09-22-2019, 09:59 AM)PF* Wrote: Nah, I don't agree with you...maybe on Bradley and Bortles.

- grumbling over money is nothing new, that's why I say big deal.
- how do you KNOW it was "piss poor negotiating"? You don't.
- you say they've failed "miserably" in the draft yet then say the 2016 draft saved his BLEEP. You can't have it both
ways.
- you rationalize away 2017's defensive performance with plausible reasons but don't you think talent
acquisition played a part?
- where did you get you're information on why Coughlin was brought here? Message Board conjecture? I saw the
move as simply Shad Khan needing a more experienced football person in-house. I never saw any "light a fire"
rhetoric from a credible source.
- the proposed Detroit deal is sound IMO. That's IMO.
- holding up Josh Oliver as a reason not to consider such an offer (which doesn't even exist, BTW) is rather curious,
given his current NFL stat line- no games played, no yards, no catches, no nothing.

Yes you can certainly have it both ways. One good draft out of 7 isn't much to hang your hat on. It's a body of work.

It's piss poor when you consider that other teams tend not to [BLEEP] around when it comes to extended above average to elite talent.

Lawrence and Elliott and Dallas are good now. All we have is Ramsey and Ngakoue potentially gone soon. But... they'll pay Bortles $16M to play for the Rams this year. Overpay Linder at Center who has failed to finish a full 16 game season for the team. Pay Norwell. Pay Jack, etc. [Weakest of the trio from 2016's class].

None of the [BLEEP] they're doing in that front office is adding up at the moment. Not seeing a ton of talks about things moving in a positive direction. Just negatives.

Regarding Oliver Vs. Hockenson? Hockenson had one big opening week in the NFL against the Cardinals and he was relatively quiet against the Chargers. Granted, it's early. But we'll see how he fairs today against the Eagles.

Again, why fork over your best player for a rookie at a position where you've already invested a 3rd RD pick and extended O'Shaughnessy [Who is beginning to see increased opportunities in the receiving game] for such low return value? You know what you have in Ramsey already.

Regarding Coughlin being here to light a fire under Caldwell's [BLEEP]? Fairly easy to see the writing there on the wall. Caldwell was able to pin his failures on Bradley. Coughlin was brought in to have a final say or stamp of approval on personnel decisions shortly after.

As I said. By the beginning of April of next year I will be surprised if Caldwell and/or Coughlin are still in the building together. Either they both go. Or one of them goes. I don't see how it doesn't happen one way or another.

Khan publicly backing Ramsey. Literally putting his money where his mouth is in regards to making him numero uno at the CB position as far as facts and figures goes is a head scratcher when you see the inconsistencies between Ramsey and the rest of the front office.

Also, Ngakoue walking away from $19M wasn't the concern. I believe it was the length of the contract that hindered any further extensions. And I believe he wants to be here longer or something to that effect but the front office is not willing to give him that. Don't quote me on that though.

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