(10-19-2019, 09:42 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(10-19-2019, 09:16 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: You're taking some liberties with portraying Shad's last attempt with Jalen.  Jalen was the best talent on the roster and one of the best talents in the league and he wanted out.  Of course the owner is going to have the last word.  It doesn't automatically mean he found fault in Coughlin or his handling to that point.  If you've read something or have something that I haven't seen, by all means share it. But as you've written it above, it's just more speculation on something no one but Shad, Coughlin and Jalen know.  And Jalen's not one to hold back.  He had no problem calling out almost every QB in the league a couple of years ago which is kinda unprecedented outside of pro wrestling, boxing and MMA. Has he said specifically what made him want out? "Disrespected" is pretty vague coming from him.  It seems intentionally so.

Coughlin got a warning for stating players should be at voluntary workouts.  It was wrong to say and should have either not been said or stated more tactfully.  If Jalen's reason for wanting out is based in part or in whole on that statement, he's even more emotionally fragile than he's letting on though.

I'm not taking liberties at all, I think you're just underplaying Shads shrewdness in this whole situation. Early on in the ordeal Shad and Tony were on the charm offensive with Jalen but at the end Shad was pretty simply calling his bluff and showing everyone what a fraud he was. I laughed when Rap described that last meeting as a "heart to heart", it was well beyond that stage. 

Also I thought it would have been plainly obvious to everyone by now that is isn't just one situation or incident that made Jalen want to leave but EVERYTHING i.e market, losing, contract, front office , Tom. It wasn't just a snap judgement after mean words from Tom.

Rap wasn't describing it that way in his own words though.  He had quotations around the term in his tweet.  I'm assuming someone close to the matter described it that way to him if not Shad himself.  It very well could have been tongue in cheek regardless of who relayed it to him.  Anyway, I'm off my soapbox.  Speculate away.

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