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If the team misses the post season again is it rebuild time?

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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2019, 06:17 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(10-20-2019, 11:40 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 09:14 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 1. Exactly. They aren't.

2. I'm saying they aren't spending the time to find the right players, because they are waiting to draft OT's in the 2nd round, that other teams didn't want. It's the exact same concept as not spending first rounders on good O-Linemen. I think that is pretty clear. 

3. Yes and because they failed once (Joeckel), they gave up. It's the same that they did for QB. They spent first rounders on Byron Leftwich, Blaine Gabbert and Blake Bortles, but because we missed on those picks, many people seemed like they never want to spend a first rounder on QB ever again. That's not how it works. The fact is, most good LT's and QB's come out of round 1. Just because you miss on some draft picks at those positions in the first round in past drafts, doesn't mean you should give up. It simply means you get better at scouting those positions and try again. Most premier starting OT's are first round picks. Period. We know drafting OT's in round 2 isn't working, so sometimes you have to recognize a problem and fix it. You play the odds and keep trying until you finally hit.

I'd like to debunk your false belief that not taking 1st round linemen is a problem. Taking Athlon Sports' 2019 ranking of the top 10 offensive tackles in the NFL shows that half were not 1st rounders, and 4 of the 1st 5 weren't (and the 1 exception was the last pick of the 1st round). The grid below shows ranking and draft position. I included draft team even though several have moved on to other teams.

Name               Draft Team      Round Pick
David Bakhtari         GB                 4th
Mitchell Schwartz     Cle                 2nd
Andrew Whitworth   Cin                 2nd
Ryan Ramczyk         NO                1st 32nd pick
Terron Armstead      NO                 3rd
Lane Johnson          Phi                1 4th pick
Tyron Smith            Dal                1 9th
Joe Staley               SF                 1 28th
Taylor Lewan          Ten                1 11th
Jason Peters           Buf                UDFA

Source: https://athlonsports.com/nfl/nfl-offensi...n-rankings

And for diety's sake, Taylor has played 6 games. Sheesh.

You're kidding? Right? Mitchell Schwartz? Ask Cleveland fans how good he is. How did he get on this list?

I see a bunch of first rounders right there. Ramczyk, Johnson, Smith, Staley and Lewan. That's 5 of 10. So using your list, 50% of the top 10 OT's came in round 1. That sounds like we should start using first round picks on OT's. You use high first round picks on OT's if you can, but you definitely use first round picks high or low on OT's. The list right there, says it all.
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RE: If the team misses the post season again is it rebuild time? - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-20-2019, 06:15 PM



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