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Gardner Flint Minshew II - (merged threads)


(10-22-2019, 03:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-22-2019, 03:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: On the surface this reach sounds plausible until you consider that these guys don't always emerge in the preseason of their rookie year as the undeniable savior of your franchise. 

It's completely possible that Minshew becomes the guy you are looking for but it takes till year three to round out his game. 

It's completely possible that Foles is capable of leading the 2020 Jags deep into the playoffs.

It's completely possible that you trade up in April for your favorite QB prospect only for him to struggle for two years before being a capable starter. 

MORE IMPORTANT than any of that is that you can't just flood a QB room with valuable prospects and expect to have enough time to properly evaluate them on equal footing in one offseason.  There aren't enough reps to go around.  

I am completely happy rolling into next summer's camp with Foles, Minshew and Dobbs ready to compete. And I'd be fine trading one of them NEXT October if value is presented and the other two are healthy. 

There is such a thing as bad timing in draft cycles and looking to draft a QB in 2020 is exactly that IMO.
That's all completely possible and reasonable.

It's also possible that the Jags draft inside the top 10,  then pass on Burrow/Tua/Herbert because they feel they have hit on a QB only to see one of those 3 become elite.

The draft is a crapshoot (we all know this after years of bad drafting) so I'm just trying to give my team more opportunities at QB gold. I'm not saying I want to have a room with 8 QB prospects. That's absurd. What I don't want to do is pass on a great/good QB prospect and reach for a position of need (aka Fournette/Williams/Bryan).

What I don't want to do is skip evaluating currently held talent in order to force a 1st round pick into the equation. 

I know lots of folks have the opinion "we know what Foles is" and "Dobbs is a nobody." 

Well, I don't feel that way. I want to see Foles run the offense that Flip designed for him to run.
I want to find out if so many squealers fans are right to be ticked off about losing Dobbs. I want Minshew to have the luxury of learning without the "into the fire" situation. 

I won't be upset if the Jags draft a Herbert or Tua type prospect at all, but I don't agree with taking QBs out of some fear of missing out on a good one. 
You have to evaluate your roster and make picks accordingly.  
Sometimes you have to let good prospects go to the teams that need them more than you do that year for the betterment of your own franchise. 

I'm not saying the Jags did the right thing at all sticking by Bortles and missing on QBs in the '17 and '18 drafts. I was against it. I just don't think we are in the same situation right now.
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Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-10-2019, 08:07 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags - 09-10-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by uthill - 09-10-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jagwired - 09-10-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by MojoKing - 09-10-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagFanatic24 - 09-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Byron LeftTown - 09-10-2019, 09:11 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Rockman1966 - 09-10-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Cleatwood - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags239 - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by WingerDinger - 09-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by jaguarmvp - 09-10-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Eric1 - 09-10-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JakobeSVT - 09-10-2019, 11:34 PM
Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HandsomeRob86 - 09-11-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:05 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by DangerousBoy - 09-11-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:45 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 06:31 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by snowwolf776 - 09-11-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by The Real Marty - 09-11-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by iHaunting Raven - 09-11-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by knarnn - 09-11-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagJohn - 09-11-2019, 12:01 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Talented Kalamari - 09-11-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jagsfan32277 - 09-11-2019, 12:42 PM
Minshew Hype Video - by MJDfan32 - 09-11-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Ronster - 09-11-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Kane - 09-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by dennisp3 - 09-11-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-11-2019, 03:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jg77 - 09-11-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-11-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-11-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Hard_Eight - 09-11-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaglou53 - 09-11-2019, 05:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaguarmvp - 09-11-2019, 07:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-11-2019, 09:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:00 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-12-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-12-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-12-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-12-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by icey14 - 09-12-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-12-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-12-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 07:08 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 09:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-12-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-13-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-13-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-13-2019, 04:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-13-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:28 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-13-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by mikesez - 09-13-2019, 08:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Caldrac - 09-13-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2019, 09:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Brett - 09-13-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-13-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-14-2019, 06:59 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-14-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-14-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Firesky - 09-14-2019, 09:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-14-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 09-14-2019, 10:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Upper - 09-14-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JackCity - 09-14-2019, 10:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-14-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RicoTx - 09-15-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-15-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-15-2019, 07:27 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Sneakers - 09-15-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RCGP - 09-15-2019, 11:31 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-17-2019, 10:50 AM
RE: Gardner Flint Minshew II (merged threads) - by NYC4jags - 10-22-2019, 04:16 PM



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