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Gardner Flint Minshew II - (merged threads)


(10-22-2019, 04:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-22-2019, 03:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: That's all completely possible and reasonable.

It's also possible that the Jags draft inside the top 10,  then pass on Burrow/Tua/Herbert because they feel they have hit on a QB only to see one of those 3 become elite.

The draft is a crapshoot (we all know this after years of bad drafting) so I'm just trying to give my team more opportunities at QB gold. I'm not saying I want to have a room with 8 QB prospects. That's absurd. What I don't want to do is pass on a great/good QB prospect and reach for a position of need (aka Fournette/Williams/Bryan).

What I don't want to do is skip evaluating currently held talent in order to force a 1st round pick into the equation. 

I know lots of folks have the opinion "we know what Foles is" and "Dobbs is a nobody." 

Well, I don't feel that way. I want to see Foles run the offense that Flip designed for him to run.
I want to find out if so many squealers fans are right to be ticked off about losing Dobbs. I want Minshew to have the luxury of learning without the "into the fire" situation. 

I won't be upset if the Jags draft a Herbert or Tua type prospect at all, but I don't agree with taking QBs out of some fear of missing out on a good one. 
You have to evaluate your roster and make picks accordingly.  
Sometimes you have to let good prospects go to the teams that need them more than you do that year for the betterment of your own franchise. 

I'm not saying the Jags did the right thing at all sticking by Bortles and missing on QBs in the '17 and '18 drafts. I was against it. I just don't think we are in the same situation right now.

All valid points. Especially in bold. No need to jump the gun. Just because you have four first round picks over the next two years doesn't mean you have to cash them all in or feel the need to swing big. Especially at the QB position. We haven't seen Foles yet. We know we have a promising prospect in Minshew already. And Dobbs may or may not be a good insurance player for the time being. 

The funny thing is that we're all clamoring for a QB yet over the last two years (perhaps longer, with the exception of maybe 2017 and credit to Bortles toughness) we've always been pissing and moaning about inconsistency along the offensive line, injuries being an issue there as well. What's the point of drafting that promising QB if you don't have the guys up front to protect him? 

Let's draft the next Andrew Luck or DeShaun Watson? Only to have them get butchered every year? Doesn't make sense. Would rather roll with Foles and Minshew this year and next year. Look to 2021 as a potential QB change if these guys fail between this year and next year. Would rather see an emphasis on bolstering that offensive line and improving the tight end position first. 

This team could be 5 - 4 going into the bye week. That's not a bad position to be in with all things considered this year.
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Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-10-2019, 08:07 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags - 09-10-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by uthill - 09-10-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jagwired - 09-10-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by MojoKing - 09-10-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagFanatic24 - 09-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Byron LeftTown - 09-10-2019, 09:11 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Rockman1966 - 09-10-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Cleatwood - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags239 - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by WingerDinger - 09-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by jaguarmvp - 09-10-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Eric1 - 09-10-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JakobeSVT - 09-10-2019, 11:34 PM
Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HandsomeRob86 - 09-11-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:05 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by DangerousBoy - 09-11-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:45 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 06:31 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by snowwolf776 - 09-11-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by The Real Marty - 09-11-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by iHaunting Raven - 09-11-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by knarnn - 09-11-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagJohn - 09-11-2019, 12:01 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Talented Kalamari - 09-11-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jagsfan32277 - 09-11-2019, 12:42 PM
Minshew Hype Video - by MJDfan32 - 09-11-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Ronster - 09-11-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Kane - 09-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by dennisp3 - 09-11-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-11-2019, 03:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jg77 - 09-11-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-11-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-11-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Hard_Eight - 09-11-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaglou53 - 09-11-2019, 05:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaguarmvp - 09-11-2019, 07:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-11-2019, 09:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:00 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-12-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-12-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-12-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-12-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by icey14 - 09-12-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-12-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-12-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 07:08 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 09:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-12-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-13-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-13-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-13-2019, 04:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-13-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:28 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-13-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by mikesez - 09-13-2019, 08:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Caldrac - 09-13-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2019, 09:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Brett - 09-13-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-13-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-14-2019, 06:59 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-14-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-14-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Firesky - 09-14-2019, 09:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-14-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 09-14-2019, 10:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Upper - 09-14-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JackCity - 09-14-2019, 10:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-14-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RicoTx - 09-15-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-15-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-15-2019, 07:27 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Sneakers - 09-15-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RCGP - 09-15-2019, 11:31 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-17-2019, 10:50 AM
RE: Gardner Flint Minshew II (merged threads) - by Caldrac - 10-22-2019, 04:25 PM



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