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Gardner Flint Minshew II - (merged threads)


(10-22-2019, 03:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-22-2019, 03:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: On the surface this reach sounds plausible until you consider that these guys don't always emerge in the preseason of their rookie year as the undeniable savior of your franchise. 

It's completely possible that Minshew becomes the guy you are looking for but it takes till year three to round out his game. 

It's completely possible that Foles is capable of leading the 2020 Jags deep into the playoffs.

It's completely possible that you trade up in April for your favorite QB prospect only for him to struggle for two years before being a capable starter. 

MORE IMPORTANT than any of that is that you can't just flood a QB room with valuable prospects and expect to have enough time to properly evaluate them on equal footing in one offseason.  There aren't enough reps to go around.  

I am completely happy rolling into next summer's camp with Foles, Minshew and Dobbs ready to compete. And I'd be fine trading one of them NEXT October if value is presented and the other two are healthy. 

There is such a thing as bad timing in draft cycles and looking to draft a QB in 2020 is exactly that IMO.
That's all completely possible and reasonable.

It's also possible that the Jags draft inside the top 10,  then pass on Burrow/Tua/Herbert because they feel they have hit on a QB only to see one of those 3 become elite.

The draft is a crapshoot (we all know this after years of bad drafting) so I'm just trying to give my team more opportunities at QB gold. I'm not saying I want to have a room with 8 QB prospects. That's absurd. What I don't want to do is pass on a great/good QB prospect and reach for a position of need (aka Fournette/Williams/Bryan).
Tua's ankles are made of paper mache. Better have a really good OL in front of him.
Joe Burrow is a one year wonder, so we'll see.

Herbert, no. I've actually watched a lot of Oregon ball this year. His play makers are making him, imo.

All that being said, the draft and getting QBs is a bit of a crap shoot and your coaching staff and roster around him matter as much as his talent and skills in college.
I think with what Minshew has shown he's the kind of guy you can develop. A very mature NFL rookie with a contract that allows you to spend elsewhere and really build around him.


I'm done falling in love with college QBs because I've seen more often than not they don't live up to the billing without a perfect storm.
Mariota, Winston, Baker isn't looking great currently, Mitch Trubiscuit, Teddy (although dertailed by horrible injury likely, he's pretty good now, in year like 6, with NOLA and a great HC), the list goes on and on, and there are 3-4 failures for every Watson or Mahomes
And to be real... most people don't know they have a Watson or Mahomes until they take the league by storm and/or surprise
Usually with a solid or really good roster around them as both of those guys do and a pretty good coaching staff as Mahomes certainly does
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Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-10-2019, 08:07 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags - 09-10-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by uthill - 09-10-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jagwired - 09-10-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by MojoKing - 09-10-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagFanatic24 - 09-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Byron LeftTown - 09-10-2019, 09:11 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Rockman1966 - 09-10-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Cleatwood - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Jags239 - 09-10-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by WingerDinger - 09-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by jaguarmvp - 09-10-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Eric1 - 09-10-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JakobeSVT - 09-10-2019, 11:34 PM
Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HandsomeRob86 - 09-11-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:05 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Dimson - 09-11-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by DangerousBoy - 09-11-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:45 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 06:31 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by snowwolf776 - 09-11-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by The Real Marty - 09-11-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by iHaunting Raven - 09-11-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by knarnn - 09-11-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by homebiscuit - 09-11-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-11-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by JagJohn - 09-11-2019, 12:01 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Talented Kalamari - 09-11-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Jagsfan32277 - 09-11-2019, 12:42 PM
Minshew Hype Video - by MJDfan32 - 09-11-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by Ronster - 09-11-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Kane - 09-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by dennisp3 - 09-11-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-11-2019, 03:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jg77 - 09-11-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-11-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-11-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Minshew Hype Video - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-11-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Hard_Eight - 09-11-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-11-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaglou53 - 09-11-2019, 05:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-11-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by jaguarmvp - 09-11-2019, 07:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-11-2019, 09:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Tony1Saintsfan - 09-11-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:00 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Predator - 09-12-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-12-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-12-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-12-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 03:49 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-12-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by icey14 - 09-12-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-12-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-12-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by Jags - 09-12-2019, 07:08 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged)Tha - by mikesez - 09-12-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 09:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-12-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-12-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Cleatwood - 09-13-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by homebiscuit - 09-13-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-13-2019, 04:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by uthill - 09-13-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:28 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by snowwolf776 - 09-13-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-13-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by mikesez - 09-13-2019, 08:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Caldrac - 09-13-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2019, 09:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Brett - 09-13-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-13-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jags - 09-14-2019, 06:59 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-14-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagsbch - 09-14-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Firesky - 09-14-2019, 09:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Jagwired - 09-14-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 09-14-2019, 10:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Upper - 09-14-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by JackCity - 09-14-2019, 10:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Eric1 - 09-14-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RicoTx - 09-15-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by MarleyJag - 09-15-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Mowerguy - 09-15-2019, 07:27 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by Sneakers - 09-15-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Thoughts on Minshew (merged) - by RCGP - 09-15-2019, 11:31 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-17-2019, 10:50 AM
RE: Gardner Flint Minshew II (merged threads) - by Kane - 10-22-2019, 04:49 PM



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