(11-04-2019, 12:03 PM)Kane Wrote:

(11-04-2019, 11:48 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Actually that is completely backwards. Minshew is a classic pocket QB who is being forced into running by inadequate protection. That he's doing it fairly well speaks to his ability because it was not something he did in college at all.

Hmm.... saw a stat before I turned off the TV that Minshew was kept clean. No hits no hurries. (This was prior to the 4th Q)\

The pass pro isn't perfect by any means. But the kid HAS to learn how to take a damn check down. Far too often Fournette is in the flat or the TE is open on a shallow crosser and he is looking downfield trying to hit the big one to Conley and Chark. When he hits those, we love that play, but sometimes you just gotta take the 3 yards.

He's a rookie. He can learn and get better. But to put it all on the OL is kinda silly.
Most OLs don't/can't protect for 5+ seconds. When our WRs don't get separation and aren't open, he's gotta get rid of it sometimes.

I love the guy, think he can really develop (but probably with a different coaching staff as ours just gets out coached and out schemed far too often)

(11-05-2019, 04:16 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(11-04-2019, 11:46 AM)JagFanFirst Wrote: Teams know how to play against him now. The Texans are the first team to see him twice.  So we know he has problems staying inside the pocket - he's more comfortable when he can improvise. I don't want to take away that improvision at all--that's what makes him special. But for him, the next step is to learn how to be comfortable and play in the pocket.  Is that doable?

Of course it is.

One of the reasons you always see me preach patience is that players have the chance to develop.

Remember Chark in his first year?  Look at Chark now.

Same with Smoot and Bryan.

Why wouldn't it apply to a rookie QB?

Now it's important we not do anything to stymie his growth and development.

Improving the line and weapons around him would help.

Schematic stability is huge.  If we change coordinators and playbooks again, it would make Minshew and everyone around him less certain, more hesitant, and less effective.

I'm curious Bullseye...do you think sitting Minshew (in favor of Foles) will hinder his development? Do you think Gardner can learn a lot from behind the scenes, on the bench--by watching Foles in action. Or do you think it's best for the rookie to play, get the experience, and work through his deficits that way? 

I'll say this - and I pray I'm wrong. I don't think Foles is going to last long behind this line. Minshew may be playing again as early as this season. I hope I'm wrong.

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