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We have a franchise QB


(11-06-2019, 12:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-06-2019, 12:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Explain the criteria for your different cases, then. 

Saying there's no set way to do it is fine, but there sure is a [BLEEP] ton of talk every single Spring about drafting a guy and sitting him for a year. Seems a pretty "set way" to me. 

I'm curious why Minshew suddenly won't benefit from this "luxury" of sitting that we so often talk about around draft time.
I'm curious to know how sitting him at this point will benefit him.

For me personally, I like to throw the rookies in to see if they can handle the speed of the game. I think you learn more from playing than you do watching but again, this is my own personal belief when it comes to rookie QBs. What actually helps a young QB though is having a great coaching staff around them. Reid with Mahomes, Lamar with Harbaugh, Watson with O'Brien, Wilson with Carroll..... Some of those QBs sat and some were thrown in right away but when you have a great coaching staff, that will help your QB more than if they sit or if they play.

It benefits him the way it does the countless rookies who intentionally receive that treatment every season? 

They get to learn from those with greater experience w/o the pressure of screwing up. 

In Minshew's case  - he now has some great stuff on tape to learn from and a guy who is likely to go out there and show him how getting rid of the ball faster/quicker decision making is something he needs to develop and polish. 

He'll get to grow his understanding of pre-snap reads and what the unexpected post snap looks might be. He's sometimes stumped when the first two guys are covered differently than he anticipated and he gets the happy feet and over anticipates pressure. This is great stuff to work on without 300 pounders trying to crush you. 

He's way ahead of the curve with x's and o's for a 6th round rook, but he's not just going out there and just dissecting defenses with authority. He's not quite there yet, and that's largely classroom stuff. 
Many of his flash plays are born out of improvisation when he doesn't have one of his early reads or he fails to make the correct initial decision with the ball. He then somehow finds a completion to an improvised route while scrambling.  That's a wonderful trait, but it's not a foundational building block. He still needs some foundational stuff so we aren't counting on intangibles and moxie to get us past tough opponents down the road. He's leaving some textbook stuff out there on the field that he can get better at/ smarter about while not playing.
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We have a franchise QB - by Ordar - 10-27-2019, 05:02 PM
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RE: We have a franchise QB - by lastonealive - 10-27-2019, 05:56 PM
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RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 10-27-2019, 07:45 PM
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RE: We have a franchise QB - by JagsFansince1995 - 11-06-2019, 01:34 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 01:36 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by JagsFansince1995 - 11-06-2019, 01:49 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NH3 - 11-05-2019, 06:54 PM
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RE: We have a franchise QB - by Kane - 11-06-2019, 11:51 AM
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RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by Cleatwood - 11-06-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 12:26 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by scottyg - 11-06-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by JackCity - 11-06-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by JackCity - 11-06-2019, 12:30 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 12:38 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by Cleatwood - 11-06-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by Cleatwood - 11-06-2019, 01:58 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by NYC4jags - 11-06-2019, 02:03 PM
RE: We have a franchise QB - by JagsFansince1995 - 11-06-2019, 02:27 PM
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