(11-13-2019, 09:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(11-13-2019, 09:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: *too

Please explain.  I'd love to hear you expound on this difficult topic.

Ok, let's try this.  You can have 2 guys, one more talented than the other doing the same thing whether it be fighting or whatever.  If that less talented guy works his [BLEEP] off the the other guy doesnt put in the work looks over the guy or the next opponent and his work ethic isnt there, more often than not the less talented guy is going to come out on top and take that guys job.  If talent was the only thing that matters these workout warriors would always be at the top and all the 1st round picks would never lose their jobs.  Some guys put in the work and outwork others to the top.  A lot of these undrafted guys like AJ Bouye are a good example

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So instead of "hard work beats talent" you are now saying that sometimes, under the right circumstances, a less talented player can outperform a more talented player because the talented guy isn't putting the work in.  OK. That's true. 

I challenge your "more often than not" assertion.  I think that is poor speculation on your part. 

I believe it is far more common for athletes with superior talent and middling to poor work ethic to still come out on top vs inferior talent. The exceptions to that certainly exist, and it's a sliding scale, but it's not tough to see that it is uncommon.

I see it all the time in my field of work and I see it every time I attend a Jags practice and in many games as well. 
Guys with superior talent have a major leg up on guys that have to work their tails off just to survive the next round of cuts. 

 We all love the underdogs who persevere and succeed despite that strike against them - but it is not nearly as common as you are attempting to make it out to be.

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