(11-16-2019, 09:15 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-16-2019, 12:17 AM)nejagsfan Wrote: It wasn't blatantly late and he barely even took him down he didn't lead with his helmet...it wasn't helmet-to-helmet he didn't land with his weight on him... It wasn't blatant and Rudolph didn't have the right to defend himself for the hit... nor was it justified.... Are we watching the same play?? Watch it in real time... At what point is Rudolph justified for trying to rip Garrett's helmet off... And kick him in the groin.... If it was such a blatant foul why didn't the ref throw the flag for roughing the passer.... The referee was standing right there and he didn't think it was a blatant late hit

a. I said late takedown, not late hit 
b. I clearly stated in no uncertain terms MR was not justified at all in his retaliation
c. I don't see a kick to the groin - i see the QB trying to separate himself by any means available - still not a good look for MR though
d.  the whole "who started it" business is silly anyway.  Several players behaved terribly. Including Rudolph. You just happen to think the late takedown didn't "instigate." I think it did.  No big deal. 
e. Will people stop telling me to watch it again please? I posted a gif I made of it in this thread. I've seen it 20 times from two angles at multiple speeds, LOL

Separate by any means!!?? You mean by trying to rip Garrett's helmet off pulling him on top of him....I don't know what you are watching but it doesn't look like Rudolph is trying to separate from Garrett... It looks to me like a pretty non-violent tackle and Rudolph getting frustrated because he was getting sacked all day and throwing they couldn't stop Garrett all game....now as far as the tackle...the hit and the take down is all one tackle.... It's literally the definition of what a tackle is... It literally happened so quickly we're talkin seconds... 260 something pound guy running in it's supposed to somehow stop his momentum.... as far as I'm concerned he didn't let up and that's why he just rolled into the he didn't slam him he didn't land with his weight on him none of these things...also Has his head in Rudolph's chest.. I'm not even sure he knew the ball was released yet... Regardless of all those things even if it was a late hit you trying to tell us that Rudolph was trying to gain separation from Garrett when you can literally see him trying to tear Garrett helmet off...

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(11-16-2019, 09:15 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-16-2019, 12:17 AM)nejagsfan Wrote: It wasn't blatantly late and he barely even took him down he didn't lead with his helmet...it wasn't helmet-to-helmet he didn't land with his weight on him... It wasn't blatant and Rudolph didn't have the right to defend himself for the hit... nor was it justified.... Are we watching the same play?? Watch it in real time... At what point is Rudolph justified for trying to rip Garrett's helmet off... And kick him in the groin.... If it was such a blatant foul why didn't the ref throw the flag for roughing the passer.... The referee was standing right there and he didn't think it was a blatant late hit

a. I said late takedown, not late hit 
b. I clearly stated in no uncertain terms MR was not justified at all in his retaliation
c. I don't see a kick to the groin - i see the QB trying to separate himself by any means available - still not a good look for MR though
d.  the whole "who started it" business is silly anyway.  Several players behaved terribly. Including Rudolph. You just happen to think the late takedown didn't "instigate." I think it did.  No big deal. 
e. Will people stop telling me to watch it again please? I posted a gif I made of it in this thread. I've seen it 20 times from two angles at multiple speeds, LOL

BTW a gif shows it in slow motion not in real time... Your gif does nothing....must not be watching from multiple angles if you can't see Rudolph initiating by trying to rip Garrett helmet off...

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