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Gardner Minshew Film Analysis-Strong Opinion Sports

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(11-19-2019, 12:24 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:
(11-19-2019, 12:09 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: To the red:  You aren't going to learn that from playing him this season. And teams were not shutting down scramble lanes - they were containing him laterally (or attempting to). 
These are different concepts.  
Learning to be more efficient from the pocket when contained will require more than just going out there and attempting it.  It will require improved protection, a playbook with more options suited to Minshew's vision from the pocket and the appropriate quick read outlets, and it will require him being coached to process these reads faster. Do you think that stuff is happening over the remaining games of this season? I don't. 

Re: running - 
He really wasn't relying on his running ability nearly as much as he relied on his ability to extend plays outside the pocket (and passing.) Scrambling more or less is not a legitimate concern. He showed restraint in this element of the game by looking to throw many times when he could have taken off on foot. 

"Believing in his arm"
He displayed tons of confidence in his ability to throw the ball into tough spaces both from the pocket and on the run.
This is not a concern. Not in the slightest.
I see your point.  I guess i'm just nervous and don't want to get too caught up in the hype.  I like the guy and want him to succeed but you are right about the coaching.  He needs someone who understands his skillset better and will know how to use it the right way.  I have no idea about the coaching prospects to replace the current staff and don't have faith in the current regime to draft the right players to fix the holes we have.  Let's just ride with Foles then.  I didn't want NF to play as much tho because if he continues to look mediocre then that kills his value on the trade market and we are stuck with the cap hit.

To be clear, I'm speaking more about the playbook having been designed for Foles and not Minshew. 
I think that mismatch limited him more than actual coaching did specifically.  I don't believe he was being coached poorly, I think he simply requires more coaching in general to be prepared to counter these defensive adjustments he was seeing. And more importantly - a playbook with plays designed to counter such a strategy. This playbook lacks that because Foles does not extend plays laterally like Minshew does.

Regardless, he's likely to work in a new system under different coaches next season IMO.
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