So... he's not trash... but he's still not exactly great.
IDK... these "wheres all the so and so haters" threads are pretty lame.

4 QBs were taken top 10 that year. Rosen wasn't given much of a shot in AZ before being shipped off to Miami who was tanking, until they weren't.
Mayfield has regressed but still showing lots of promise. Allen has improved from year 1 to year 2, but isn't exactly lighting up the league, so I guess he went from trash to okay.
Darnold... yeash, I don't even know...
meanwhile the QB taken 32nd overall is probably going to win MVP (if Russell Wilson doesn't)

Here's my take.... no one knows crap about scouting players and the team you go to and the coach staff you land with matter just as much as your ability.
Does anyone think Lamar Jackson would be doing so well as a Jaguar? Honestly...

I had them listed as
Mayfield
Rosen
Allen
Darnold
Jackson

With the last 4 being faaaar away from the first.
I won't say I'm going to eat crow really... Cuz, it's year two. What I will say, and have admitted in the other thread, is I was pretty far off in my evaluation of Jackson. With the right team and scheme he is playing far above what I would have ever gave him credit for. I think Mayfield would probably be doing just as well or better on that team (or another well coached team).
Rosen still has an incomplete grade to me as AZ wanted Murray no matter what and the Phins weren't very good (aren't very good?).
I was never high on Darnold as a QB from what I saw of him at USC. High rates of turnovers have carried over into the NFL. I think he is what he is and hasn't shown me anything just because they beat a mediocre Cowboys team.

I guess if you had Josh Allen high on your QB board, good for you? But he has yet to prove that much. And they are winning games on the back of a really good defense just as much, or more, than QB. (Sounds a little Bortley to me)
FTR, his best games have come against the Phins, the aforementioned overrated mediocre Boys, and the Skins.
He has passed for less than 200 yards in 4 games. Yeah, he makes some plays with his legs, but he'll finish with like 3500 yards passing and about 60% comp. And probably a 20/12 TD:INT ratio. And they'll likely be one and done in the playoffs. It isn't anything to be serving up crow about.

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(12-02-2019, 05:45 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:

(12-02-2019, 05:27 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Classic jags fans lol

Allen stats

16 TDs 8 ints 63% 2592 passing yards  - 430 rushing yards and 8 TDs

He is better than pretty much any QB we've ever had.
But of course if he was a Jag people on this board would be saying he is god and that he is way better than Jackson.

He’s 2017 Bortles right now. Decent, but not going to single handily win you a game

So he'll be a Rams back up in 2021?

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