Create Account


Board Performance Issues We are aware of performance issues on the board and are working to resolve them! The board may be intermittently unavailable during this time. (May 07) x


The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show significantly less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.
Poll: How much would you clean house?
Keep Coughlin, fire Caldwell and entire coaching staff, retool roster
Keep front office, fire coaching staff, retool roster
Blow it up. New FO, new staff and major roster cuts.
New FO, new staff and retool roster
New FO, new staff and retool roster INCLUDING drafting QB
blank #2
[Show Results]
 
 
Rebuild Vs Retool

#69

(12-11-2019, 02:26 PM)Jags02 Wrote:
(12-11-2019, 11:08 AM)Mikey Wrote: I voted blank #2 because the options presented didn't quite fit.

Tom must go. There is a rift between him and everyone else below him, and until that is fixed, we will have little success bringing in GM, coaches, or players that do not want to be micromanaged.


If Tom were to personally replace the Jags brass underneath him, suddenly all those rifts are gone. Part of the "rift" is that Khan had a GM and HC, etc, in place already and then brought TC in. That rarely sits well. It might be different with TC in charge of his own guys.

But if Tom were hired to manage the day-to-day operations in Shad's absence, that would include working with the team Shad had already put together. You're saying that undermining those people and helping them fail their way out of town is sitting well with Shad? Or that this was the intent of him bringing Tom in, without letting him purge the staff that conflicts with his (or Shad's) vision?

At this point, I think he's poison. You either are stuck with letting him run the entire show, as you propose, or you are going to be picking from a very limited pool of yes-men candidates that are willing to hold a title but relinquish all their responsibility to a micromanager. Nobody is going to be seeking out our vacancies if they know that they are not going to have liberty to take measures as they see fit to turn things around.

The real question is whether Shad sees Tom as poison, or cure.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-10-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-10-2019, 05:20 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NH3 - 12-10-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-10-2019, 06:02 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by The Real Marty - 12-11-2019, 06:20 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NCJag - 12-10-2019, 05:25 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by The_Franchise_QB - 12-10-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JaguarKick - 12-10-2019, 05:34 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-10-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by knarnn - 12-11-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by flgatorsandjags - 12-11-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-11-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-11-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by knarnn - 12-11-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-11-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Mikey - 12-12-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by sfljaguarsfan - 12-11-2019, 08:43 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-11-2019, 08:48 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by MojoKing - 12-10-2019, 05:42 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-10-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TJBender - 12-10-2019, 06:04 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by jaguarmvp - 12-11-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Jags02 - 12-11-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TrivialPursuit - 12-11-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JackCity - 12-11-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by The Real Marty - 12-11-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-11-2019, 05:11 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by rpr52121 - 12-10-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Cleatwood - 12-10-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by rfc17 - 12-10-2019, 06:56 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-10-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-10-2019, 08:17 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Eric1 - 12-10-2019, 08:27 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-10-2019, 08:42 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by EricC85 - 12-10-2019, 09:03 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by MojoKing - 12-11-2019, 12:55 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-11-2019, 01:34 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Kane - 12-11-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Jags02 - 12-11-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-11-2019, 01:01 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TJBender - 12-11-2019, 01:22 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Kane - 12-11-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Mikey - 12-11-2019, 11:08 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Jags02 - 12-11-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-11-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Jags02 - 12-11-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-11-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by TJBender - 12-11-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by knarnn - 12-11-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Mikey - 12-12-2019, 10:52 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JackCity - 12-11-2019, 11:16 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Kane - 12-11-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JackCity - 12-11-2019, 11:35 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Kane - 12-11-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Newton - 12-11-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JackCity - 12-11-2019, 12:59 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Newton - 12-11-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NCJag - 12-11-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by The_Franchise_QB - 12-11-2019, 03:05 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Jags02 - 12-11-2019, 03:16 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Kane - 12-11-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by The_Franchise_QB - 12-11-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by snowwolf776 - 12-11-2019, 03:16 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JackCity - 12-11-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Hard_Eight - 12-11-2019, 04:08 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-11-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-11-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Senor Fantastico - 12-12-2019, 03:25 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-12-2019, 10:52 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-12-2019, 11:33 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-12-2019, 11:38 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-12-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by jvillejagsn1 - 12-12-2019, 12:27 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-12-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-12-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by NYC4jags - 12-12-2019, 03:08 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by jagibelieve - 12-12-2019, 03:21 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-12-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Upper - 12-12-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Hard_Eight - 12-12-2019, 06:57 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-12-2019, 11:53 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Hard_Eight - 12-13-2019, 12:31 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 12-13-2019, 01:23 AM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by jaglyn - 12-13-2019, 03:52 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by rpr52121 - 12-13-2019, 05:20 PM
RE: Rebuild Vs Retool - by Caldrac - 12-14-2019, 12:02 PM



Users browsing this thread:
2 Guest(s)

The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.


ABOUT US
The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!