(12-18-2019, 08:29 PM)copycat Wrote:

(12-18-2019, 01:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: I wouldn't say everyone. I don't think any of the previous 44 presidents are remembered for saying or doing things in public that their peers felt were beneath the dignity of the office.  I think you could say that Obama committed some High Crimes by creating DACA along with a few other things, but he didn't commit misdemeanors.  Obama behaved with the courtesy expected in his time.

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It definitely matters.
If the Senate votes to acquit along party lines without calling witnesses, it will be proof that the checks and balances created by the founders do not work and that political parties and elections are the only remaining check on tyranny.  Either the public will accept that, or they will wake up on re-structuring our constitution.

You do know that House is the trial and Senate is the jury right?

The Senate is not a jury. The Constitution only says that Senators must be on "oath or affirmation" while the proceedings occur but it does not specify what that oath or affirmation is. The Constitution goes on to say that all trials shall have juries except for impeachments. So the Senate is not a jury. Rehnquist said these things from the dias in 1999.

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