(01-03-2020, 12:08 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(01-03-2020, 11:47 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Oh, please...

You said his ceiling was Richardson. Richardson flamed out in his third year. Fournette had to account for the shortcomings of a woeful offense in his third year and he produced good results.  Please tell me how you AREN'T wrong. 

And please don't try to "hang your hat" on touchdowns. Anyone with one working eyeball saw this team struggle in the redzone most of the season and it wasn't only Fournette's skillset holding them back. The board was littered every week with posters begging Flip to alter the run scheme inside the 10 yd line. 

It's hilarious I don't really even like the player, but I can see how bad your take on him is even though I'm in no way inclined to defend him.

Everything you say there is either wrong or nonsensical in the context of what we're talking about. I wouldn't be shocked if Fournette is out of the league after his rookie contract, but we'll see. I'd be surprised if this team even picks up his fifth year option.

If the Jaguars don't pick it up what does that say about him?

As for the rest, we saw Fournette lose yardage in the red zone plenty of times and get stopped at point blank range against the Texans to lose the game. The problem with your argument is it exposes the weakness of your position by itself. Complaints about scheme and such.

A guy that fails because of scheme at running back is a bust of a pick at number four overall. At that draft position you should be getting guys like Jalen Ramsey or Josh Allen. Guys that will be winners at their position and make it easier for the coach to scheme wins, not guys that the coach gets headaches about because he's being forced into the lineup thanks to draft position and hamstringing what the coach can do with scheme.

Incorrect.  

What I'm saying is what I've been saying all along. Your Richardson comp was absolutely stupid. That is my "position."
You simply keep ignoring that and try to deflect with 2019 TD numbers and various garbage speculations. 

Your inability to know and understand the difference between a bust and an overdrafted player has gone beyond dumb to "willful ignorance" at this point. 

And please don't try to tell me about what a back picked that high should be like. I led the [BLEEP] charge on that topic for months here before and after we took him. 

I'm moving on, flame away with more herpderp.

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