(01-15-2020, 04:29 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:

(01-15-2020, 12:42 PM)JackCity Wrote: I think we haven't even seen the peak of Lamar yet given this was his 2nd year and only had a really good TE and rookie WR. I do absolutely agree that the ravens need to develop the passing aspect of their offense but what we saw this year was Lamar as a great pocket passer for the most part and they are retaining their super smart OC. 

Also his performance under pressure is solely passes under pressure, not his runs. And the vast majority of his passes came from inside the pocket, I think all of his TDs actually came from inside the pocket too. 

The difference in the wildcat and Lamar is that Lamar has given a near unprecedented level of passing efficiency at age 22 and it led to an MVP. The wildcat was nothing more than a schematic fad

Not to diminish Lamar and his year in any way, it is worth noting that he had good passing numbers because of the run threat he poses.  It gives him bigger passing lanes and provides more favorable coverage for his receivers.  I think this game he just had is not an outlier unless he progresses as a pocket passer this off-season.

Yeah, he doesn't have the big body a Cam or Tebow does.  He wont be able to last from the hits over time.  If you can limit his scrambling and make him throw from the pocket he is no where near as affective and he will make the mistake.  But as you said his scrambling ability opens up passing lanes.  He has a ton of talent around him though and a great coaching staff so he is in a good spot

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(01-15-2020, 07:40 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(01-15-2020, 07:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not sure what this is supposed to mean.  Dont act like Lamar had to do most by himself with no help.  He had 5 other pro bowlers on offense and that rookie receiver was one of the best WRs to come out last year and a 1st round pick.  That team had 12 pro bowlers and set the Pro Bowl record.  Lamar had a really good season but that team is stacked with talent.

It's not that hard to understand. If your main source  of targets are a rookie and a really good TE then it stands to reason that year 3 can have better receiving targets as the rookie (who was good) enters year 2 + other additions are made. 

His WR group as a whole was not good, and he was still extremely productive as a pocket passer

Year 3 yeah, but with as much talent as that they wont be able to pay everyone.  Newsome is gone also and you have Burrow coming in.  I see that Ravens team being really  good for about 2 more years max and then the downward spiral will begin.  So hopefully they can win the SB next year because that will be their best chance

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