(05-26-2020, 05:18 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: For any of you that are buying this "Gruden's offense was bad in 2019, and Minshew struggled after the saints game, so the jags offense will suck in 2020"  nonsense:

Two QBs have had success in Gruden's system. Dalton and Cousins.

Dalton had seasons under Gruden that went 9-7, 10-6, and 11-5.
Cousins had three seasons that produced 4000+ yards and 25+ TDs under Gruden.

If you compare the rookie seasons of Dalton, Cousins and Minshew, then you'll find that Minshew performed better as a rookie with:

• higher completion percentage
  
• more touchdowns
  
• fewer interceptions
  
• better QBR
  
• higher adjusted YPA
  
• higher yards per game
  

I think a Gruden playbook tailored to suit Minshew will make for better offensive production than the Jags 2019 output regardless of any tape teams have on Minshew now.

I guess I'm burned out with going down this path every single offseason; optimism that our new OC will make this offense great again.  I mean, didn't we just have the OC/QB coach that made Foles great again in Philly and then coach Cousins (Vikings).  We just don't have the talent on offense for "anybody" to make this anything more than a 20th ranked or less offense.  We have no team speed on O.  Couple that with the fact that I really don't see any creativity with Gruden's past offenses (e.g. going 4 wide, etc.) so I think we're set up to see a lot of what we saw last season --- prediction 27th ranked in Points For and 30th ranked in Points Allowed.  Not sure which teams could be worse so I may be a bit optimistic with my prediction.

It should be noted Gruden had 3 pro bowl players on that 2012 team with the Bengals (Green WR, Gresham TE, and Whitworth LT).  Whitworth, who was drafted in 2006, actually made 3 more pro bowls a few years after Gruden left.

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