(08-06-2020, 10:23 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(08-06-2020, 10:06 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Rejecting change and rejecting change for legitimate reasons is the distinction.

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I have to agree with Lucky2Last on this. The left has gone off the deep end and there seems to be no one at the wheel.

Legitimacy being in the eye of the beholder of course

I can understand how people on the left think the liberty/tea party conservatives are extreme. Even I think that radical libertarians are mistakenly trying to create their own type of "utopia." I am speaking directly to the type of libertarian that is almost an anarchist. All conservatives should recognize state power, or they are moving away from the founding documents. However, even this warped view is at least in the spirit of founders (in that it relies on individualism). One also needs to take into account whether the extremes are legitimized in the mainstream, which I don't feel is the case with the right (or shrinking), but the same can not be said on the left (which is growing rapidly).

So, I believe legitimacy for the right does, in fact, hold more water than legitimacy for the left. I can see how someone who isn't from this country and didn't grow up with these values might not agree with those principles, but that is different from legitimacy. To clarify, I am using this definition of legitimacy: accordant with law or with established legal forms and requirements. The progressive left in this country isn't even in the ballpark.

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