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Default Training Camp Thread 2020

(This post was last modified: 08-26-2020, 11:08 PM by Firesky.)

(08-25-2020, 11:23 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(08-25-2020, 08:53 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I will, because I still HATE the pick. There was simply no way, he was a top 10 player. Even if he was the 2nd best CB, (which I don't believe he was,) the drop off from from Okudah to Henderson was massive. We had multiple needs on this team. We didn't need to reach for a CB. We could've taken an O-Lineman, D-Lineman, WR, LB or Safety. Mark my words, we will draft a LT in the first round of 2021, as long as we don't package our picks to trade up for a QB. Hopefully it will be with the first of our opening round picks, which would signal that Gardner Minshew is indeed, our QB of the future. If not, the second of our first round picks should fill the slot. I'm rooting for Penei Sewell of Oregon or Liam Eichenberg of Notre Dame.

From the perspective of being a premium position, Henderson's positional importance is justified by a #9 overall pick.  I saw some good and bad in his play.  His coverage of Jamar Chase was impressive enough, especially when contrasted with AJ Terrell's NON performance against Chase.  But I worry about his ability to cover bigger more physical receivers.  While admittedly some players simply match up well against other players for some reason, and Cole has had spells of very good play, it's troubling to see Cole (who also beat CJH deep during the scrimmage IIRC) have his way with Henderson. I found myself disappointed with the pick in the immediate aftermath, in large part because I wanted to give Minshew help to make the determination to see if he is finally the answer at QB and there were players at LT and WR who were worthy of the #9 pick.  It's too bad I really can't watch either of those Ts you mention in action this year.  It is my deepest hope that I am wrong and that CJH was worthy of the #9 pick.

Learning how to be physical can be taught; if you remember even Ramsey struggled against the bigger more physical receivers his rookie year (Alshon Jeffrey in the first half of the Bears game abused him; but he made adjustments and had a game sealing play) it wasn't until Ramsey's 2nd year that he was more of a complete player and could cover receivers of all types.

The drill where Henderson got beat (1 on 1 offball with no passrush) is heavily skewed/favored for the offense. The same drill in TC back in 2017 Allen Robinson beat Ramsey a few times, but idt anyone thinks that factoring in a pass rush, press coverage being allowed, and the existence of safeties in an actual game that Robinson would consistently beat Ramsey or that Cole would consistently beat Henderson.

To OlineMatters point about his tackling, CB is the one position on defense that being a stellar tackler isn't a necessity, Rashean Mathis was a below average tackler all things considered but was a truly fantastic corner for us for a decade. Tackling can be taught, and I would venture to guess that a lot of surefire 1st round picks on teams without NC aspirations aren't all that zealous about throwing themselves into the fray knowing an injury could cost them draft spots and a significant amount of $$$. I agree that his tackling isn't amazing but it's the one "wart" in his game that's entirely teachable. I think the backend of the top 10 was a perfect spot to take him.

I think we'll be pleased with Henderson's development by the end of the year. When I look at him I see a young Rashean Mathis and i'll take that every time, looking forward to him covering TY Hilton week 1
Championship Formula:

1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
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Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Bullseye - 08-14-2020, 05:43 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Dimson - 08-19-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-20-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-20-2020, 05:44 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-20-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-20-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-21-2020, 05:45 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-21-2020, 05:03 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Brett - 08-21-2020, 05:45 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-21-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-21-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-21-2020, 06:18 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-21-2020, 06:24 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-22-2020, 10:13 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Newton - 08-22-2020, 11:00 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-22-2020, 03:12 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by uthill - 08-22-2020, 05:53 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-24-2020, 11:34 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Kane - 08-24-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Kane - 08-26-2020, 12:41 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-24-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-24-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-24-2020, 04:44 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-24-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-25-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by RicoTx - 08-25-2020, 09:58 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-25-2020, 02:22 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-25-2020, 05:17 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by uthill - 08-25-2020, 06:21 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 08-25-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Upper - 08-26-2020, 11:29 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Newton - 08-26-2020, 11:45 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-26-2020, 01:43 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-26-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Firesky - 08-26-2020, 11:05 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Newton - 08-26-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-27-2020, 03:44 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 08-29-2020, 10:01 AM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 09-02-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by mal234 - 09-02-2020, 09:16 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Newton - 09-02-2020, 09:32 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 09-02-2020, 09:50 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 09-03-2020, 02:45 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 09-03-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Eric1 - 09-04-2020, 09:00 PM
SamusAranX - by SamusAranX - 09-05-2020, 01:35 PM
RE: Default Training Camp Thread 2020 - by Brett - 09-05-2020, 01:47 PM



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