(09-16-2020, 10:06 AM)NCJag Wrote: I'd love to see him get 36, just to strike BOAT from the top of the franchise list.  Here's another note showing the sad state of play for our franchise in regards to QB play: If Gardner throws 31 TDs this  year, he will have 52 TDs in 30 career games, entrenching himself at #4 all time in franchise history, supplanting Byron Leftwich, who threw 51 in 46 games.  He's already won 7 games as the starting QB. That's number four in franchise history, over Chad Henne (31) and Blaine Gabbert (28) who each won FIVE. He has the highest QB rating at 94.3, by a wide margin over David Garrard at 85.8 (not counting guys throwing one or two passes).

In a small sampling size (one full season), Gardner is by and large the best QB we've ever had.  It's truly sad.  Hopefully we've finally found a diamond.

It's always amusing to hear fans moan about the historically horrific QB play of their team. We are still a young franchise.  How many 'great' QB's do you remember from even the historically best franchises who have had multiple Super Bowl wins?

Pittsburgh:
1. Terry Bradshaw (debatable)
2. Big Ben (legit)
3. Neil O Donnell (got them to a SB, but that's it)
4. No one else

San Fran:
1.  Montana
2. Steve Young

Seattle:
1. Russell Wilson
2. Matt Hasselbeck (one SB)
3. Jim Zorn

Patriots:
1. Brady
2. Tony Eason (1 SB)
3. Bledsoe (1 SB)
4.  Steve Grogan (bahaha)

Dolphins:
1.  Griese
2. Marino

Bills:
1. Kelly 
2. that's it

Titans/Oilers
1. McNair
2.  Warren Moon (great QB, came close)
3.  Dan Pastorini 

Green Bay
1. Bart Starr
2. Brett Farve
3. Aaron Rodgers

Washington
1. Mark Rypien (??? baha)
2. Doug Williams (legit)
3.  Billy Kilmer

Cowboys:
1. Roger Staubach
2. Aikman
3. Romo

Browns:
1. Kosar
2. ????

I could go on, but the point is that we are less that half as old as some of the youngest of these teams, and in some cases, not even 1/4 old.  for every great QB that a franchise has had, there have been a bunch of craptastic QB's sandwiched around them. We've had 1 above average QB in our franchise history so far, IMO, and we got him early on, but many of these franchises didnt get thier 1st 'franchise QB' until 25 to 30 yrs in.  I hope Minshew is the one that takes us to the SB, but as far as putting up with average QB play, i dont think we are much different that 80% of the other teams.

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