(11-06-2020, 05:04 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote:

(11-06-2020, 03:53 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Even the most hardcore leftists on here have to appreciate the irony in the fact Hillary still hasn't accepted the result from 2016 and now you want to shun Trump for doing the same, except with an actual valid reason.

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Most things with long term benefits won't be pain free up front. Trust me, I flip houses in my free time and the cost of construction materials and appliances have gone through the roof, pun intended. I'm not mad at Trump for this because I am a reasonable person. I also know we will go back to the status quo with Joe where we pay less for items, but allow China to continue to gain on our economy and continue to steal our IP, which is awful for us long term.

I was willing to pay more with the tariffs if that meant things were made in America, but that takes more than a few years to actually materialize.

Everyone increases the deficit. That takes multiple people to tango.

You are confusing deficit with debt.  Everyone increases the debt, not the deficit.  I wasn't an Obama fan, but he actually decreased the deficit every year he was in office.  Trump's tax cuts (90% of which went to the top 1%) actually increased the deficit.  Meaning the rich got free money that added to the debt that future Americans will have to repay...  just kicking the can down the road.  Do you think that is conservativism?  That's ridiculous.

Trump tax reform only helping the top 1% is the biggest misnomer and sham going, and good for the Democrats selling it that way. It worked.

Most everybody benefited from tax reform. I instantly got more money in my paycheck. Most uninformed people were accustomed to receiving a refund, not fully understanding what a refund actually is, and when they received more money in their paychecks and ended up getting less of a refund, the Democrats pounced on it because that was an easy score with the mindless.

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