(11-07-2020, 11:58 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(11-07-2020, 11:49 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: Your point should be obvious.  There would be less concentrated efforts by Democrats in a Red state like Alabama (where they have no shot of winning) or a blue state like NY (where they will clearly win) to drive up their voters than in swing states like GA, PA, WI, and MI.  Seems obvious that the Democrats had an amazing grassroots effort their to drive turn out against the most unpopular president in US history.  Quite simple.

Oh, and it just so happens that a water main breaks in the most populous county in the state and they have to wait until all other vote totals are in before they can finish voting... I mean COUNTING.  

You keep saying most unpopular like that actually means something.  You are talking about a candidate that got the second most popular votes in the history of the republic and the largest amount of non-white votes for the GOP since 1960.  Trump was up in every minority demographic and 4 to 5 points in the black community so your major thesis doesn't hold. 

Going back to the Obama years, the kind of ethnic backlash that you are espousing happened EVERYWHERE!  Parts of Ohio, Texas, every major urban area had inordinate black turnout.  In this case its only in GA, MI, PA and Wisconsin.  The 4 states that were within striking distance and the left thought they would need to flip in order to win the presidency.  

True enough, Right now all we have are irregular or unnatural trends.  But, in a place like Michigan you had a popular Black senatorial candidate that would normally be an additional boost to the GOP candidate OVERPERFORMING with blacks, not facing a singular turnout model.  Now in MI you have a documented case of a voting machine spitting out a vote for a Dem when the lever was pulled for the GOP.  I find it interesting that the Mayor of Philly is so quick for trump to concede.  If they have the numbers then why not prove it.  Right now you have tallies compiled by people who hate trumps guts and you have election poll watchers being kicked out of Philadelphia polling stations.  This will probably only amount to GOP folklore to motivate us in the next election, but no reasonable person would deny that there is some smoke there.

There are so many clueless points you make here that you have no comprehension of whatsoever.

He is the most unpopular, because HE inspired Americans that HATE him to elect Joe Biden, one of the most uninspiring candidates ever, to receive THE MOST VOTES in the history of the Republic.  And it will end up to be 7 million more votes than Trump when the popular vote is fully certified.  California has reported only about two-thirds of their vote count as of yesterday.  You think Biden inspired people to vote Democrat?  Hell no... Trump did that.  Because he is hated.

Only a simple-mind with limit math background would claim Trump did better with black voters this election.  Those stats were overwhelming accumulated from exit polls from voting stations.  In the pandemic, the majority of Democrats voted by mail, including the black vote.  So any claims made from polling from voting stations lack context and are just wrong.

And simple minds are pointing to Philly for fraud.  If they are doing fraud in Philly, they are doing it worse than in 2016, because Trump's percentage of votes was actually slightly better in Philly this year than in 2016.  He's still getting killed, but not as bad as he was then.

Educate yourself on statistics and logic.

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(11-07-2020, 12:02 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:

(11-07-2020, 11:49 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: Your point should be obvious.  There would be less concentrated efforts by Democrats in a Red state like Alabama (where they have no shot of winning) or a blue state like NY (where they will clearly win) to drive up their voters than in swing states like GA, PA, WI, and MI.  Seems obvious that the Democrats had amazing grassroots efforts in blue counties of swing states to drive turn out against the most unpopular president in US history.  Highlighted by Georgia.  Quite simple.

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Ever here of California?  Illinois?  New York?

Ever see the urban and rural split in any state?  In Texas, Houston, Dallas, Austin, are all blue areas.  Duval county went blue.  Educate yourself somewhere other than QAnon websites.

If you’re going to tell someone to “educate” themselves about anything, at least know the difference between here and hear. And yes, I’ve heard of those places. How many of those places had such a crazy increase in Trump hate turning to Biden votes like the areas we are discussing now?

There is a big difference between a typo and conceptual logic flaws.

All of them have increased hatred, displayed by increased voter turnout everywhere. But logic would dictate that swing states would express those with votes in greater numbers than states where voters know where the electoral votes will go regardless of whether or not they vote. Pretty simple.

But if you have evidence of fraud, please present your case.

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