(11-07-2020, 05:49 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(11-07-2020, 05:44 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Everything can't be explained away by bias. Every person that comes here has a bias. Obviously, I have some bias, but I listen to both the conspiracies and the people that debunk them. I am focusing on the stuff that isn't being discussed, and following the data. Something seems off, and I'm open to being corrected. Present some kind of fact that undermines my post or stop posting about it. I have sited 4 different instances in swing states that occurred in only a couple counties that don't fit the pattern in the rest of the country or even other blue counties within the same state. There are down ballot irregularities, abnormal voter turnout increase, and a slew of other issues that raise alarm bells, again, only in about 8 counties. The rest of the country follows similar patterns. You gave the example of Abrams, to which I conceded could be a logical reason for the rise in GA counties, but doesn't explain the others, and you have said that's just my bias. That's not an adequate rebuttal, and neither is "probably just a good grassroot campaign."

Right now, there are 10k voters in MI that were turned down after being turned in because they were all dead. Now, I am not going to verify all 10k, but my friend and I, randomly selected 20, verified them against the absentee ballot, and checked their death against the Social Security Index, and all of them checked out, so I'm going to assume that it's accurate. MI officials say it was most likely a glitch, but voters in MI had to register for an application, return the application, then be sent a ballot, then return the ballot in MI. I have no idea who those people actually tried to vote for, since those ballots get thrown out (which is good). However, that's not my point. Either the system glitched and mistakenly sent dead people ballots and the residents that received them are very dishonest, politically active people, or someone or group was actively looking to expand their voter base. It would be nice to be able to see  if there was a pattern in who those dead people voted for, wouldn't it? If it's fairly evenly split, probably not a big deal. If it's one sided, it's probably fraud. 10k is not a small amount.

Also, another interesting point is that Republicans actually requested and returned more mail-in ballots in MI, so a lot of the narrative that Republicans didn't vote by mail is out the window. With Trump up the night of the election (which assumes he won the day, but I admittedly have no way of knowing that), Joe Biden would have had to received almost all of the independent votes from mail in ballots to end up with the numbers he did. Just a lot of odd stuff when you're looking at the numbers.

Do you remember when most applied for and sent the ballots? I checked two and saw that they applied and sent the ballot within a week of each other.

So you think you can vote twice?  That's just cluelessness about how the procedures work.  And the election conspiracy theory is a QAnon conspiracy... so its appropriate.  Whether it encapsulates you specifically is immaterial. And I don't care if you are bored by it. lol

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(11-07-2020, 05:44 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Everything can't be explained away by bias. Every person that comes here has a bias. Obviously, I have some bias, but I listen to both the conspiracies and the people that debunk them. I am focusing on the stuff that isn't being discussed, and following the data. Something seems off, and I'm open to being corrected. Present some kind of fact that undermines my post or stop posting about it. I have sited 4 different instances in swing states that occurred in only a couple counties that don't fit the pattern in the rest of the country or even other blue counties within the same state. There are down ballot irregularities, abnormal voter turnout increase, and a slew of other issues that raise alarm bells, again, only in about 8 counties. The rest of the country follows similar patterns. You gave the example of Abrams, to which I conceded could be a logical reason for the rise in GA counties, but doesn't explain the others, and you have said that's just my bias. That's not an adequate rebuttal, and neither is "probably just a good grassroot campaign."

Right now, there are 10k voters in MI that were turned down after being turned in because they were all dead. Now, I am not going to verify all 10k, but my friend and I, randomly selected 20, verified them against the absentee ballot, and checked their death against the Social Security Index, and all of them checked out, so I'm going to assume that it's accurate. MI officials say it was most likely a glitch, but voters in MI had to register for an application, return the application, then be sent a ballot, then return the ballot in MI. I have no idea who those people actually tried to vote for, since those ballots get thrown out (which is good). However, that's not my point. Either the system glitched and mistakenly sent dead people ballots and the residents that received them are very dishonest, politically active people, or someone or group was actively looking to expand their voter base. It would be nice to be able to see  if there was a pattern in who those dead people voted for, wouldn't it? If it's fairly evenly split, probably not a big deal. If it's one sided, it's probably fraud. 10k is not a small amount.

Also, another interesting point is that Republicans actually requested and returned more mail-in ballots in MI, so a lot of the narrative that Republicans didn't vote by mail is out the window. With Trump up the night of the election (which assumes he won the day, but I admittedly have no way of knowing that), Joe Biden would have had to received almost all of the independent votes from mail in ballots to end up with the numbers he did. Just a lot of odd stuff when you're looking at the numbers.

I already have... and you agreed with it.  And yet, you are still here. The logic would be the same with grassroots campaigns in other swing state counties. Seems obvious.

"Right now, there are 10k voters in MI that were turned down after being turned in because they were all dead." If this is true, then good! The system worked. There have only been a handful of cases of fraud nationally. The one's I have heard of were Republicans... but I am sure there are Democrats as well. Neither in a scale that could effect any result.

If the mail in votes were counted first, this would not have even been perceived as a close election, and would have been called the evening of November 3rd.

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