(11-26-2020, 06:24 PM)Eric1 Wrote:

(11-26-2020, 10:56 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: So you're saying that it wouldn't be worth it to give up a 2nd and a 3rd for Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes on their rookie deal?  Because that's what were are talking about here if you believe the Trevor Lawrence hype that he's a can't miss franchise QB... the type of player we have never had here before.  Of course there are no guarantees, just as there are no guarantees that your 2nd and 3rd round picks will be any good either.  But I'd give up Jawaan Taylor and Josh Oliver (2nd and 3rd rounders respectively in 2019) for Trevor Lawrence in a heart beat; quality over quantity.  Hell, I'd trade a 2nd and a 3rd for Joe Burrow (pre-injury).  The fact we do have draft capital in 2021, and cap space for free agents, to add more quality players would make me feel even better making that move.

That being said, I tend to agree with flgatorsandjags that someone else will likely be desperate and dramatically overpay to go up and get that #1 pick.  People thought the Bears overpaid in 2017, giving up two-3rds and a 4th to flip picks from #3 to #2 to get Trubisky, but Lawrence has much more hype around him than that.  I'd cap our offer at flipping 1st's, plus a 2nd and a 3rd; someone else would likely outbid us. I'd be fine with Sewell, but at some point you need to find your QB.  Minshew et al. ain't it.

Yea with hindsight, of course we'd trade for Peyton Manning or Mahomes... The problem is that we know how that story played out/is playing out, so it's a no brainer. There's no guarantee Lawrence will be anything close to either of those two. Especially if we still have this same coaching staff working with Lawrence.

Regardless, its all a moot point anyways. The Jets aren't trading that #1 pick. They are going to take Lawrence 100% if they hold the #1 pick. Our only hope at getting Lawrence is that we continue to lose and the Jets win a couple.

Well that is what you are trying to evaluate.  If you think Lawrence is that guy, you pay that price.  If you don't make the move and he turns into the second coming of Patrick Mahomes, it will haunt your franchise for a decade.  Look at Chicago... they have built a Super Bowl caliber defense and a solid roster overall, but missed terribly on the QB with Trubisky.  Missing on that single pick will cost that GM his job either this year or next.  Could you imagine that team if they had taken either Mahomes or Watson?!?!  They'd likely have a ring by now instead of KC.

However, you are probably right about it being a moot point with the Jets keeping the pick... but you never know.

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