Quote:My initial reaction was satisfaction and still is. Joeckel will slide back to his natural position, we'll have more draft picks, and spend money elsewhere in FA. If we trade down for Clowney then things get even crazier, tank again for Jameis and gather a RG3+ deal? Probably not happening, pretty sure Teddy is our guy

 

I'm not satisfied with the return - not when Trent Richardson (who plays a non premium position) and hasn't proven to even be all that good, nets a first rounder. Also WR Roy Williams, who was another that really wasn't all that good AND was in a similar situation contract-wise as Monroe (Last year of) fetches a 1st, 3rd & 6th. Hell even a broken down, old & battered Stroud fetched us a 3rd + a 5th....

 

If it is merely a cackle of 3rd day picks, Caldwell got fleeced, plain & simple. 

 

Quote:We are the farm league team for the NFL.

 

Draft them- develop them- then ship them off for camp fodder when they are due a pay day and claim we are planning for the future.

 

We are turning into the Marlins.

 

Either that or Caldwell is a Gene Smith clone who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, where he believes he can find the gold that every other GM misses and build a franchise with late round picks and UDFAs.

 

nah, we're not the Marlins - I wish we were!!....at least the Marlins usually get good return on their fire sale trades. 

 

Quote:Were the Jaguars some branch of the federal government that just got caught in the shutdown and nobody told me?

 

I figured this trade might be a possibility, even before the team took Joeckel.

 

If the initial reports of 3rd day picks are true, initially I didn't think we got enough for him.

 

But after giving it some thought I realized a few things.

 

1)  I have never been as high on Monroe as many have been here.  It's quite possible a superior talent evaluating GM like Newsome-to say nothing of other average GMs-didn't believe Monroe was elite-thus no elite draft compensation for him.

 

2)  We got, at the highest, a 3rd round pick for Stroud.  Stroud was far better at his position than Monroe ever was at his.  Even adjusting for positional importance, a 3rd round pick would be about the highest you could realistically hope to get for Monroe, given that his level of play at his position never approached Stroud's.

 

3)  As bad as it seems, Monroe was basically the only asset on the roster with any real trade value.  MJD has too much mileage, and his injury last year and poor performance this year (which may or may not be attributable to him) wouldn't get much in return.    Marcedes Lewis will likely get even less. They wouldn't trade guys like Joeckel or Cyprien when they are the first class in this GM's tenure.

 

See above

 

Quote:Has no one thought of this?   What if we DO re-sign Monroe?   He's a free agent at the end  of the year whether we trade him or not.   So there's nothing to keep us from signing him in free agency. 

 

All we've really traded away is his services for the next 12 games.  At the end  of it, he's a free agent, whether we trade him or not.  

 

I don't want to re-sign Monroe in FA because I think Joeckel has the higher ceiling at OLT - and Monroe is not a ORT. We need more of a mauler for that position. 

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