(05-02-2021, 09:08 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(05-02-2021, 08:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: You never know.  In 1974, the Steelers draft included 4 players who are now in the Hall of Fame.  In the 2000 draft, the Patriots draft was all complete busts except for one guy they drafted in the 6th round who turned out to be arguably the greatest pro football player of all time.  We don't know what's going to happen.

Bingo.

To add one more example, Seattle was trashed for their 2012 draft, which netted them two likely Hall of Famers in Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson.

Our immediate impressions are nice to have and debate, but at the end of the day, we won't know until they prove it wither way on the field.

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(05-02-2021, 07:12 AM)JeepJag Wrote: The reality is no one, be it on the boards or professionals, has any idea how these drafts will be. If y’all actually watched college football this year, it took about halfway through the season for the teams that played to look like they were even approaching full stride, and that was only the teams not hit by covid. Grades, good or bad, are worthless. This draft is more off of potential than any in recent memory because this past CFB season wasn’t even a real season and had no real offseason before.

Yes.  More guesswork and speculation by teams than normal due to the circumstances.  The crap shoot became a crappier shoot.

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(05-02-2021, 07:21 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: For kicks I looked at pff's ratings and no team got below a C-, so a B+ is more like a B- or C+ if you use stacked a ranking, which is what they should be using, and the Jaguars would be in the middle tier. Every team can't have an average or better draft when it's all from the same pool of players.

That being said, I'm not worrying about trying to evaluate the draft class right now, I'll evaluate them in the fall.

Sporting News did what you suggested here, and we ranked 17th.

We gotta wait and see.

Yes, always have to wait and see, and they put us in the middle tier of the league, which is really quite the slam for a draft that includes Trevor Lawrence. I'll do my evaluating in the fall, but given Baalke's terrible drafts in SF it might just be a case of Trevor being the nut that even a blind squirrel can find, which is what I was afraid of, when Khan announced this leadership group.

(05-02-2021, 09:17 AM)Upper Wrote:

(05-02-2021, 08:37 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: seemingly based on their evaluations coming out of highschool.

This was a bizarre thing we should be putting much more emphasis on. After the first round all 4 of the next picks were guys that there were predraft articles about how hard Meyer recruited them out of high school. I really wonder how much of the player pool was thrown out the window simply because Meyer didn't know them 4 years ago. It kind of seems like a whole lot if not most of the pool.

Yes, the seeming focus on guys he had personally met is bizarre, and seems to fit with what we know of him overall, which is that he seems to think what he did as a college coach is what it'll take to succeed in the NFL.

One thing is for sure, if the Jaguars fall on their face the next couple of season the national media is going to be all over it, and if it's bad enough we might even be in a situation where Trevor pulls a Ramsey and forces his way out, which would be tragic.

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