(07-09-2021, 01:19 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 06:05 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Instead of the "instant upload to social media" of what goes on in classrooms, why don't parents go to the schools and sit in classrooms?

Rather than look for some kind of digital way to monitor what is being taught, why not have parents just see for themselves?  Go sit in the back of the classroom and observe?

If the response is because "both parents work" why is that?  Is it because our society has come to the point where both parents have to work to make ends meet?  Is it because there is so much extra expense that really isn't needed?

People in this country have really gotten lazy.

Your post is confusing.  You complain about both parents working and the state, to the contrary, people in this country have really gotten lazy.

In any event, when both parents work, the economy adjusts to account for both parents working.  A prime example of this is the housing market which used to be extremely affordable in the mid-70's.  However, when it became evident when both spouses in the household were working, home prices increased accordingly to account for both parents working (e.g. the $100k house was now valued at $150k).   Note: the price adjustment does not represent a 100% increase due to lower wages on average of the working wife back in the 90s

Your post is pretty confusing, but I'll try to answer so that even you might understand my point.

When I was in grade school in the late '60's/early 70's there were times when my parents (as well as the parents of other children) actually participated in our education.  My mother didn't start working until I was older, and even then it was not a full time job.  We got along just fine and my mother's income was kind of "extra" for things that my parents "wanted" rather than "needed".  I grew up in a middle class home.

If I remember right it was around the 3rd grade or so we had the "birds and the bees" lesson.  The boys and girls were separated and the boys' fathers attended with the boys and the girls' mothers attended with the girls.  Puberty and reproduction was explained.  My father as well as the other fathers there took time off of work to do this.  I did the same with my two sons when they were around the same age.

Today people want cameras so they can "check in" on their phones rather than taking the time or making the effort for their children.  People are lazy ("too busy") to be proactive in raising their children.  The job is more important, saving money for that next vacation is more important, etc.

That brings me to my point regarding a two income household.  Things that are "must have" now for most people include stuff like "cable TV" whether that's actual cable, satellite, streaming, etc.  Many people feel like they "must" have the latest smart phone and it's not just the parents.  Children "have to" have them as well.  Cars have to be "late model", you have to have the boat, jet skis, RV, etc..  The only way to afford what used to be "optional" or "luxuries" is for both parents to work.

Another example that I heard today at work from a couple of millennial's that work for me is how they have "Roombas" that operate when they "tell Alexa".  People are so lazy that they "tell a device" to start up a "robot vacuum" to clean their home.

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