(07-13-2021, 06:34 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(07-12-2021, 04:40 PM)Firesky Wrote: Ok QB's. Garrard made a pro-bowl, Bortles didn't. Both beat the Steelers on the road for their signature playoff win and lost to New England; the 16-0 2007 Patriots were better than the 2017 Patriots imho, considering Bortles lackluster play in the wildcard game against the Bills in 2017 I don't think we can really say that Bortles had the better playoff run. Garrard came up clutch against the Steelers and then was straight up MAGIC against the Patriots and his receivers let him down

TE - Julius Thomas should be #5 yea he was a let down in terms of the 1k perennial probowler we expected but 700-800 yards and just shy of 10 TD's in his 2 seasons here is a lot better than some of the J.A.G.'s the team has trotted out there not named Marcedes Lewis the past decade plus.

LT - Eugene Monroe had a rough rookie year and then was terrific, not sure why he gets as much hate as he does; the downgrade from him to Joeckel really kickstarted the "dark ages" imho, we didn't have a passable NFL starter at LT until Cam Robinson was drafted.

Guard - Coleman > Norwell, also Linder only played RG for us prior to his move to Center. Also Eben Britton should probably be #5 for RT, he was solid and looked promising but his career was derailed by multiple shoulder injuries and the herniated disc in his back which he never really recovered from.

DT - Sen'Derrick Marks over Seth Payne, I feel like Marks is a forgotten man, he was Malik Jackson for us before Malik Jackson. 8.5 sacks > 5 sacks; and Marks was just soooo disruptive before his knee injury.

I'd seperated Josh Allen into an "EDGE" category; as for the 5th OLB to replace him i'd give the nod to Justin Durant, but Clint Session or Clint Ingram if we're looking for a Strongside linebacker.

for CB, i'd move Bouye up 1 spot over Beasley, and i'd replace Fernando "Toast" Bryant with Brian WIlliams, man was an unsung hero at RCB across from Mathis for years.

SS:
Donovan Darius
Barry Church
Sammy Knight
Gerald Sensabaugh
Gerald Alexander

FS
Deon Grant
Tashaun Gipson
Reggie Nelson (unfairly criticized imho; never should have traded him)
Carnell Lake
Dawan Landry

otherwise I can see how most of the list was selected; you can nitpick the exact order between 2 places in a few spots but on the whole I don't think there's too many other snubs besides the aforementioned points.

Arguing about Garrard or Bortles really says it all, the Jaguars have never had a true franchise QB. Not even Brunell.

Throughout the team's history whenever the Jaguars needed the QB to step up and take the team on his shoulders it was a crap shoot as to what you'd get from drive to drive and even play to play. Hopefully that's about to stop with Trevor.

People think Brunell was one because they remember a handful of plays in the '96 playoffs, but they ignore how he constantly [BLEEP] the bed against the titans.

If Trevor is a true franchise or elite QB he'll be the first one this team has really had.