(08-29-2021, 12:27 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(08-28-2021, 01:41 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Anything is possible, but I don't see any proof of it. I just saw a bunch of crazed, right wing, Trump supporters who actually believed they could change things by creating a riot at the capital building. I know crazed "Trumpers," because I am surrounded by them here in Ohio. They still fly their Trump flags, display their Trump signs and are ready to throw down and physically fight people if you say anything negative about the man. Literally. I was at the grocery store about a month ago and two grown men were screaming at one another, because one insisted that Trump is still president. I left before I could see if it came to blows. It was no surprise to me to see what happened at the Capital that day, because where I live, it's full of rabid Trump supporters that act like that. Maybe some people live in areas where they don't see the "radicals," but I do. Could there have been Antifa people there to stir up things? Maybe. Could there have been undercover government agents there in the crowd? Anything is possible, but I find this very far-fetched. I'm surrounded by Trump supporters who don't need "stirring up" by any outside forces. They already run very hot and it only takes one wrong word to push them over the edge.

There's plenty of proof. Two known antifa members were in the Capitol building streaming about how they "did it." They were arrested. Two FBI agents have already testified that had infiltrated various movements. They had to be there that day to testify. All I am saying is, there is a sentiment of the right that has been riled up by double standards in this country, and it's not going to take much to push them over the edge. I don't deny the thousands of Trump supporters that were there that day and angry, but you mistakenly attribute their presence to Trump. Trump is just saying what they already think. Most people there that day advocated for peace. They are angry, but they love their country. I saw a few do really dumb things, though. And those dudes need to be punished. It can't be one sided though. The left has to start owning their turds and applying an even standard to the right and the left.

That is never gonna happen, but just as I saw the right wing "turds" (as you put it), rioting at the Capital, I saw an equal amount, if not much, much more of left wing "turds" at the BLM riots. I've never placed complete blame on one side or the other. Both sides have equal blame for the division in this country. It will never change though, because both sides are waiting to see the other make a major platform change or accept blame and that will never happen. Both sides feel justified when their most radical factions do something crazy, because they always site how the other side gets away with the same behavior. I've seen it from both sides and in certain cases, they both have points, but it has to stop. Somebody needs to take the "high ground" and set a decent example and the other side needs to follow suit, but nobody will. That's why I refuse to pledge allegiance to either side.

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(08-30-2021, 03:21 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Once again... if actual insurrectionists were there... they'd have killed that cowardly cop instantly. Just put 10 AK-47 rounds right in his face. Not one person fired a shot. Not an insurrection.

Actually, more than likely, when confronted with firearms that cop would have pissed and [BLEEP] himself then run away screaming for help.

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to have nothing to do with the right or the left. I see radicals like this on both sides.

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