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flgatorsandjags · 08-31-2021, 10:08 AM

(08-31-2021, 09:38 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(08-31-2021, 09:09 AM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [Emphasis added.] The problem is that we can't keep trading existing players for draft picks that are highly likely to result in lesser talent. That's not the way to rebuild. In fact, that's a great strategy to remain a rebuilding team indefinitely.

Agreed completely.

As I said earlier, the odds of getting a 6th rounder to produce at Sidney Jone' level is low. Granted, Jones did not have a good game against the Saints. But for the bulk of his Jaguars career, he vastly outperformed a 6th round pick.

At this point, I have to think Baalke intends to stockpile picks to move up in the next draft. If that is the ultimate goal, then I might be okay with this.

But if not, if the goal is to just stockpile 3rd day picks for no apparent reason, then it was a mistake getting rid of Jones, even with the bad game against New Orleans.

(08-31-2021, 09:31 AM)Sibelius Wrote: With Baalke it makes sense. Stockpiling all the day 3 picks allows him to grab up all the guys with torn ACLs that no other team will touch.

But he's willing to do that with second and third round picks (Walker Little, Cisco). If only he were willing to do that with the Tennessee OG that went to KC. But he had no torn ACL

(08-31-2021, 09:19 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: People that didn't like this move our the guys that didn't watch the preseason games and just remembered the couple good games he had with us last year. His play regressed more than any player on the team from last year and not to mention the injury history

I know he had a bad game against New Orleans.

But he's had way more good games with us than bad, and the odds are he'll be better than any 6th rounder we could get.

Is that the only get you watched this preseason? Lol, you obviously did not watch the Dallas game. He was the only corner that was getting roasted on every other play by WRs that will likely get cut. After the 2 or 3 good games he had with us last year he regressed after those as well and started to play poorly. He hasn't had more good games than bad with us and at least with a 6th you have a chance at getting a player that won't be a liability and can be a role player. At this point Jones is a liability and we don't need those on the roster. Look at my post and the Dallas he day thread

(08-31-2021, 09:51 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(08-31-2021, 08:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: zactly this. It is the same move as we made with Minshew, but nobody soiled their shorts over that move.

Jones wasn't our future at the position. He had plenty of opportunity to convince the new bosses that he was worth keeping, and failed to do so. We got ourselves a sammich of some meat-adjacent substance instead of cutting him and ending up with nothing.

We're in a build. ground up. We're going to see some of the old guard get gone. Let's just hope we get some value out of the picks we're hoarding.

We had a better guy ahead of Minshew, and arguably a better guy behind Minshew. I can't think of anyone saying Minshew should start over Trevor Lawrence because he was the better player. Some felt as long as the OL could not pass protect, Minshew should start to take the abuse until the OL could get it together enough to not get TL killed, but nobody thought he should start over TL on the pure merits.

Even with his bad game against New Orleans, there are plenty who see Jones is a better alternative than Herndon or even Campbell, and he's likely to be better than any 6th rounder we could get.

That's the difference.

You keep saying bad game against NO like that's the only bad game he has had lol. His game against Dallas was worse than that and not even gonna talk about when his play fell off last year