(09-04-2021, 08:55 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(09-04-2021, 08:40 PM)copycat Wrote: Poor choice HB. #1 Obese people cause my insurance to go up.  #2 Vaccinated people still spread the virus.

Are we moving the goal posts here? When did insurance rates come into this? Obesity isn't transmissible. It's a perfect choice for a counterargument. 

Vaccinated people are far less likely to suffer severe COVID symptoms. Most have none at all. 

You guys can continue this drumbeat of choice, and I agree it's yours, but you can't hide the fact vaccines are hugely successful in negating or halting COVID illness. Yes, yes, the vaccinated are still transmissible (to almost exclusively unvaccinated) and there is a small percentile of breakthrough cases, but the numbers don't lie. Vaccinated people face much less risk of contracting or exhibiting severe symptoms. Argue around it all you want, those are the facts.

Not moving any goal post, my reply was a continuation of the post you replied to.  

As to your next two points I do not disagree.  At 21:24 Saturday September 4th according to the CDC under the current political environment you are correct.  At the same time you cannot tell me any long term effects of the vaccine.  You cannot guarantee getting the vaccine will end the virus.  There are so many unknowns and we are being fed half truths at every turn.  Ordinarily some skepticism and demanding answers would be applauded until now.

Back on topic, southern border is total chaos.  Afghanistan is/was a total disaster.  What does Washington want to address?  Ice cream machines.

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