(11-01-2021, 06:43 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 05:35 PM)Black and Teal Wrote: While I agree with you on “how much does a safety help us” it’s kind of like passing on Derwin James. I think he is every bit as good as Derwin. Also, Aidan Hutchinson does more than just that clean up sack you’re talking about. Even in that game he got a sack with an impressive pass rush move that he was held on, Michigan took the holding penalty instead. All season long he’s been unblockable. He’s got the right size, attitude, production, strength, and speed you’d want from a top 5 pick. I’d be WAY more happy about a Kay’von, but Hutchinson is the goods as well

I do too. Kyle Hamilton is an elite Safety. With that said, if you took Derwin James off the Chargers, how much would it change their overall defense? Would it really make that much of a difference, as good as he is? We need difference makers and I'm just not sure if any Safety can be a real difference maker with our team, as it is. With that said, if we are at #4 when we draft, Thibodeaux is gone and we can't get anyone to trade down with, I'm taking Hamilton. He is the BAP, imo. I just hope it doesn't come to this. 

I certainly didn't mean to imply Hutchinson wasn't good. He is. I just think some of his stats make it look like he is more consistent than he really is though. IMO, there is a big dropoff from Thibodeaux to Hutchinson. I see one as elite and the other as very good. By trading down, I think we could end up with 2 very good players instead of one. Personally, I only see 3 elite players in this coming draft, Kayvon Thibodeaux, Kyle Hamilton and Jordan Davis, but there are also a ton of very good players who I believe could make immediate impacts for us.

If the Jaguars agree with your assessment, this will make next year's 1st round pick a very difficult choice. As I see it, the current team's greatest needs are:

1. Pass rusher- Chaisson is looking more and more like a bust. Improving the pass rush also greatly helps our secondary. 

2. #1 wide receiver- Even if Chark returns, he has not proven to be a true number 1. Lawrence needs a reliable deep threat to maximize his talent.

3. Offensive line- Taylor has regressed to the point of being a major liability every week. Robinson has played well, but is that just because it's a contract year? Norwell and Cann may both be gone
                         in 2022 due to poor performance (Cann) and free agency (Norwell).

4. Cornerback- This depends on whether Tyson Campbell shows miraculous improvement between now and the end of the season. Since he is a rookie, there is hope BUT he needs to come a 
                      LONG LONG way to earn a starting spot opposite Griffin.


Two of your three elite players (Davis, Hamilton) do not play positions of major need for the Jaguars. Hamilton and Brown have helped improve the run defense significantly and must be considered important parts of the team's future. Jenkins has not been great, but he and Cisco would not be liability at safety. 

Do you agree with this assessment and if the Jaguars have Davis and Hamilton rated slightly higher than Aiden Hutchinson and Evan Neal, who do they select with their pick if Thibodeaux is not on the board?

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