(11-03-2021, 03:52 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:

(11-03-2021, 02:02 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I do agree, but I would put CB above O-Line as far as team needs. I may even put ILB above O-Line, because even with Norwell and Cann gone, I like Bartch. That leaves one OG position to fill. I'm even toying with the idea of franchising Cam Robinson one more year, because he hasn't been terrible and we just have too many other needs to deal with and this is definitely not a draft class that you want to be looking for a franchise LT. Ideally, we would go after Armstead or Reiff as a replacement in free agency, but I'm not gonna try and fool myself. No good free agent is gonna want to come here with the joke of a coaching staff and front office we have. It's just not gonna happen. I'm hoping we can re-sign Shatley as a backup Center and we still have Linder under contract for one more year. Little has to contribute in 2022. Whether it be LT while possibly moving Cam to RT or vice versa, because Taylor has to go. He's a huge liability. Maybe we could draft a C/OG somewhere in the middle rounds to fill one of the OG spots and then move the rookie to starting Center in 2023. I really like Nick Ford of Utah for this role. I know this is far from ideal, but we have so many major needs on this team, it feels like we are in way worse shape than we were at the end of the 2020 season. 

Ideally, we trade down if we can't get Thibodeaux, but if we can't, I'm still taking the BAP regardless of need and hoping for the best. Right now, the #2 player on my board is Kyle Hamilton. I know he's not a CB, but he is a player in the secondary and should at least help in coverage.

Overall, we're pretty much in agreement. A trade back to a team desperate for a quarterback is definitely in play. It is crazy how teams repeatedly overvalue quarterbacks in the draft and I expect that to be the case again in 2022. Despite the fact that none of the prospects appear to be on the level of Lawrence, Wilson, Jones or Fields, teams like Detroit, Washington and Atlanta will reach for this position. Matt Corral, Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett will be quarterbacks that these desperate teams would be willing to trade up for. Detroit should be picking first and will foolishly pass on someone like Thibodeaux to take their favorite quarterback. That still leaves two other quarterbacks that teams like Washington, Atlanta or even Pittsburgh would be willing to trade up for. If Thibodeaux falls into their laps at pick 2 or 3, they run to the podium and forget a trade. If not, trading with the Redskins would still enable the Jaguars to get a top 10 pick in 2022 plus an additional 2nd rounder (top 10) and another high pick in 2023 (I'd even take a 2nd rounder if they refuse to part with their 1st rounder). The Jaguars could then take their highest rated player in round 1 (ideally a pass rusher like Hutchinson or Karlaftis) and get two very good players in round 2. 

We do disagree about the Jaguars selecting Hamilton if a trade doesn't materialize. As great as he is likely to be, I expect the Jags to start 2022 with Jenkins and Cisco. Jenkins has been o.k. and has a huge contract and Cisco should develop into a very good player once he gets on the field. The importance of adding a very good pass rusher next season cannot be overestimated so I'd prefer they take someone like Hutchinson. This also will immediately make things easier for whoever their 2nd cornerback is (draft choice, free agent or an improved Campbell).

I don't think they will. Detroit is in desperate need of a pass rush and they could get a QB of equal value like Carson Strong or Sam Howell, possibly in round 2. Thibodeaux is an elite player and is light years ahead of any player in this draft. Even Detroit should be able to see that. 

I just don't see Hutchinson as an elite player.

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