(11-04-2021, 04:01 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(11-04-2021, 10:02 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Kampman had 37 sacks between 2006-08- his prime years. I'd take that in a heartbeat from Hutchinson.

Hutchinson is a good player, it's just that like Kampman, I don't think he's elite. Would you take Hutchinson because he fills a need, believing he may be another Aaron Kampman or would you take Kyle Hamilton who plays at a position where we don't have a great need, believing he could be another Troy Polamalu? Personally, I'm taking the BAP and that would be Hamilton. I'll take the better player over the need position.

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(11-04-2021, 03:33 PM)Upper Wrote: I will take your word that Neal does all of that stuff, I have been able to watch less college football than ever this year unfortunately...especially with my scouting hat on.

That said, what you describe is basically exactly what Wirfs was like, and why I was lower than him throughout the year than others (fortunately that changed after the combine and I was sky high on him). Usually when you see someone lunge and overstep it is because they are trying to overcome athletic insufficiencies, just look at Cam Robinson for example #1. However, we have seen Neal show absurd explosion with those box jumps and while long speed isn't as important for lineman he has clocked over 18 MPH a lot of times with the chips which is crazy for a guy his size obviously. We'll see with the all important SS and 3 cones, but it seems to me like he is the freak athlete that can have his technique cleaned up and become a plug and play pro bowler right away.

Exactly. Cam has never overcome his insufficiencies. If I'm taking a player in the top 5, I want a finished product. I'm certainly not gonna expect George Warhop to coach him up. That would never happen.

So Trevor was a finished prospect? Not based on his first couple of NFL games. LOL Just yanking your chain a little. But I get your point.  While every draft pick truly is a risk, some are lees so than others, like Trevor. Wirfs would have been a good pick at our place in the draft that year. Certainly better than what Cam has proven to be and wayyy better than Taylor, but both of them were second rounders. This reiterates the need for hitting on the big uglies and not missing on them. Are all the great/ really good OTs first rounders? No but with our track record, even first round picking is often suspect.  Oh and I absolutely agree that Warhop isn't a great O-line coach. Prolly not even a good one. Average at a dubious best. This then is my mantra the rest of the season, O-line is our biggest need next year ( and a new oline coach too). After that is WR#1. Then defense at every level, especially ILB

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