(01-13-2022, 11:24 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(01-12-2022, 07:21 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: My last 2 cents in this thread because nothing is going to get resolved until next season.

1. A select few see the major flaws in Lawrence.  I'm use to the backlash on this board.  I was insulted when I wanted Gene Smith gone, When I wanted Gus Gone,  When I wanted Dave Caldwell gone, etc.  Some of us like me have insight while the slow few hurl mindless insults.  History repeating itself.

2. It's just ridiculous people are in here beating their Chest over the Colts game.  It was a sub 300 yard 2 td pass game.  It was by far Lawrence's best game but let's not pretend it was  a star performance.  Good for him that he saved his best for last but most of the season was highly lacking.  Bortles would throw for 300+ yards a game even some 400yards a game.  Is Bortles considered a Gunslinger? https://www.footballdb.com/players/blake...sing-games  I said it before,  If we are judging  Lawrence on the 1 game performance against the Colts then that means Baalke is great because he put together the team who whipped the Colts?  My guess is the Colts overlooked us and for some reason do not play well on this field.  If that version of Lawrence was normal we would all be happy.  Judging him on his best performance and forgetting all the bad is a very poor way to see things.
 
3. I or anybody else on this board know for certain how Lawrence will turn out.  If this were a court of Law, there is a lot more evidence supporting my argument than the Lawrence lovers here.

I think some of you are too emotional and it blinds your Judegment WE ALL  want Lawrence to be a star franchise QB.  I really can't see how you can honestly come out of the 2021 season really believing Lawrence is the franchise QB without any doubt.  It's either Blind Loyalty or you are lying to yourself.  Lawrence has some great traits like Leadership, Strong  Arm, Tough, etc.  I could say the same about Blake Bortles.  Lawrence has enough holes in his game IMO to put doubt in my mind if he will be a good QB.  Time will tell

Will continue this in 2022.  I really do hope you Lawrence Lovers are right and he is the next Aaron Rodgers.  We will see.

Seeing as both you have me and half the board blocked and you've essentially said you're not revisiting this thread, it's probably wasted bandwidth, but here goes.

1) You say you got flack for all those calls to get guys gone, but was the flack over your desire to get them gone, or the timing of your call to be rid of them? If the near-immediate response to any draft/hire/signing is "Fire [insert name here]" before they have a chance to prove their merit, then yeah, you're gonna catch heat.

2) I haven't seen anyone 'beating their Chest' over the horseshoe game. It was great to see, and has just as much potential to be the team's future as did the Pats game. I don't know anyone here that is saying all our troubles are gone because R1P1 had a 2/0 TD/INT game. Maybe I glossed over those posts. Is it wrong if fans of the team don't see encouragement that the team (and players individually) performed well in a game that meant everything to the opposition?

3) You're right, none of us know. Some of us look to see the glass half full, and hope to see it fill some more. Others choose to see it half empty and scramble to find any leak they can to deem the situation a lost cause. It's not that there isn't doubt. Every single prospect can fail. Many of them can be successful, too! Some may require some patches in the form of scheme, supporting cast, or training, but it's wise to at least try some of those fixes before you scrap everything and start fresh. The vast majority of the board are in wait and see mode, not some blind rejection that flaws aren't present. Every single QB in the history of this league has had flaws to overcome. Manning wasn't going to scramble for first downs. Brees was short. Favre threw picks trying to make big throws. Not saying TLaw will be anywhere near as good as these guys, but perfection is not the standard, and that's the point of all this. If you expect perfection to deem someone a franchise QB, you'll never find one. Sometimes damn good is good enough to get you where you want to go.