(02-26-2022, 09:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: You're right that there are fake videos and reports from both sides.  Neither side has any incentive to tell the whole truth.
I think we're having a healthy skepticism about most of it.  The truth will come out in time.
As for your allegation that this is not an "open war" because Ukraine still has a lot of their utilities running, Fox News is reporting that Russia just hit Kiev's main oil storage facility.  Russia seems to be trying to get Ukraine to surrender with as little damage as possible.  But Russia can and will escalate the pressure each day.

I agree on the open war escalating. I saw something about internet being taken out but haven't looked to see if it was true. Then saw something about Elon sending satellites to get it back up. No clue to the truth of it but I do think it will turn into an open war if Putin doesn't get whatever his objective is.

(02-27-2022, 12:22 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...ore-228606

Wow...

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That is just touching tip of the iceberg. Even the tank running over the car has moved further into the faked category.

(02-27-2022, 12:34 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://youtu.be/djSiLxsCTmg

Also odd.

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I saw that. He also has a WEF profile but that doesn't guarantee he is elite scum. He seems to be friends with the Polish leader and they are not a liberal country for the most part.

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