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Have we been too harsh on Baalke?

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(03-21-2022, 01:59 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I am sticking to his time here as the Jaguars.  His time in SF could be looked at several ways.

I am going to give him the major majority of the credit for this past draft class.  Too many reports have come out to state how obtuse Meyer was.  I read one today where it was reported he had no clue who Aaron Donald was until last year for example.  I have to believe Baalke did the majority of the research on players and ultimately picked players based on his knowledge.  I am sure Urban had some influence but we will never know how much.

Despite the census, this draft class was solid.  Lawrence has franchise guy potential, Little has starter potential, Campbell looks like a Gem, Cisco looks like a baller as well.   ETN could be the marshall faulkish type player with the duo threat.  A solid B at the least.

Baalke being the man goes into this off season with some aggressive moves in free agency. 

1. In the 3-4 Myles Jack is a major liability.  Truth be told he has been average at best since that 2017 season.  Jack wasn't down but his cap wasn't worth the production.  Good move cutting ties.

2. Franchise tag if a long term deal is worked out.   I was against franchising Robinson because it's a rental then we go into next season with a strapped salary cap needing a LT.  I have read reports they are working on a longer deal with Cam.  If they can get a few years of stability at LT then good move.  Little could take that spot but I need to see a bigger sample size.

3.  Reports are Linder is either retiring or being released.  Linder is a good player when healthy.  As Bill Parcells says, "the best ability is availability."   Linder just can't be counted on to make it an entire season.  The head scratcher is we just got Scherff who has the same circumstances.   Hard choice to let him go but I think it's the correct one. 

4. This Free Agent class overall was good.  Arguement could be made we over paid but as the bottom feeders I believe we had too.  People keep harping on the Kirk $20 million dollar deal but there were reports other teams where offering $17 million plus so we were not that far off.   Getting the Lead leader in tacking combined with an athletic tight end we can pair with Arnold I believe this team really got better this offseason. 

I was on the Clown show wanting Baalke fired but I would happily eat crow if this team turns things around.  Both sides of the ball have seen improvement before the draft.

I don't think we have.  It's possible that he's learned from a lot of his mistakes, and this is his last chance for a significant position in his field.  However, he was front-and-center at the core of several consecutive toxic environments and should have been removed with the rest of the mess.

Kahn loves the guy and insists on giving him one last chance to prove himself in spite of all the diatribe against Baalke.  Probably just a promise Kahn refuses to break as much as anything.

I certainly hope Baalke has learned from his past and these moves turn out to be the best we could hope for.  I'm all for Baalke being great if it means the team finds relevance again.  I'll probably have a hard time giving him too much credit until he manages to do it on a consistent basis though.
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Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by jaguarmvp - 03-21-2022, 01:59 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by scottyg - 03-21-2022, 02:40 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 03-21-2022, 02:49 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Newton - 03-21-2022, 02:57 PM
Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Caldrac - 03-21-2022, 03:54 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 03-21-2022, 06:50 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 03-22-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 03-21-2022, 06:58 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 03-21-2022, 07:12 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 03-21-2022, 07:58 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 03-21-2022, 07:37 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 03-21-2022, 08:43 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Preach - 03-21-2022, 10:59 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 03-22-2022, 09:25 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by rfc17 - 03-24-2022, 03:33 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 03-26-2022, 12:23 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 03-27-2022, 01:18 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 03-28-2022, 08:13 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 03-27-2022, 01:28 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 03-28-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Newton - 03-29-2022, 12:21 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 03-30-2022, 08:29 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 03-30-2022, 01:04 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by ATLjag - 03-30-2022, 01:15 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 04-01-2022, 11:24 AM
Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by p_rushing - 04-24-2022, 08:32 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Adub28 - 04-25-2022, 12:28 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 04-26-2022, 06:21 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 04-27-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 04-27-2022, 03:03 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 04-27-2022, 03:45 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 04-27-2022, 04:53 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 04-28-2022, 12:42 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 04-28-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 04-28-2022, 08:37 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Newton - 04-28-2022, 02:35 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jags - 04-28-2022, 08:36 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Ordar - 04-30-2022, 06:54 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 05-28-2022, 12:51 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 05-31-2022, 09:07 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 04-30-2022, 06:57 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 05-28-2022, 08:13 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 05-29-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 05-29-2022, 12:15 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 05-29-2022, 03:24 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 05-30-2022, 01:56 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 06-01-2022, 07:37 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-01-2022, 06:49 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 06-02-2022, 07:05 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 05-30-2022, 10:51 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-31-2022, 08:55 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-31-2022, 10:05 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-31-2022, 12:01 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 05-31-2022, 02:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by rpr52121 - 05-31-2022, 03:32 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Mikey - 06-01-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 05-31-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 06-01-2022, 01:51 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Upper - 05-31-2022, 09:50 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by wg171 - 08-28-2022, 09:52 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 08-28-2022, 01:22 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 08-29-2022, 02:04 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 08-29-2022, 02:19 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 08-29-2022, 02:52 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 08-30-2022, 09:00 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 08-30-2022, 10:17 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 08-30-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 08-29-2022, 02:31 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 08-29-2022, 03:12 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Kane - 08-30-2022, 09:58 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 08-30-2022, 09:20 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 08-29-2022, 05:58 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 08-29-2022, 11:35 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 08-30-2022, 12:02 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag149 - 09-20-2022, 03:43 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 09-21-2022, 01:47 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 09-21-2022, 06:00 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by surfon - 09-21-2022, 06:17 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 09-23-2022, 11:24 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 09-23-2022, 02:56 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 09-22-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 09-22-2022, 10:05 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 10-17-2022, 12:32 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by surfon - 10-27-2022, 12:32 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Dimson - 10-17-2022, 12:03 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 10-19-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by wg171 - 10-25-2022, 09:12 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by wg171 - 10-30-2022, 03:15 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-26-2022, 10:15 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-26-2022, 04:25 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-26-2022, 05:13 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by wg171 - 11-26-2022, 04:31 PM
Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Caldrac - 11-27-2022, 04:31 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 11-27-2022, 09:07 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 11-27-2022, 09:43 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 11-27-2022, 09:57 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 11-27-2022, 10:20 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Mikey - 11-28-2022, 11:23 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-27-2022, 09:36 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-27-2022, 09:55 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-27-2022, 10:01 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 11-28-2022, 11:28 AM
Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Caldrac - 12-04-2022, 07:24 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 12-28-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 01-17-2023, 05:10 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by RicoTx - 01-17-2023, 10:00 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Eric1 - 01-18-2023, 06:55 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by Jag88 - 01-18-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by NH3 - 01-26-2023, 09:35 AM
RE: Have we been too harsh on Baalke? - by jaglyn - 01-20-2023, 09:43 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-25-2023, 05:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by MarleyJag - 01-25-2023, 07:12 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 01-25-2023, 07:20 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by SeldomRite - 01-25-2023, 07:21 PM



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