(03-22-2022, 05:21 PM)p_rushing Wrote: (03-22-2022, 08:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: I'm SHOCKED you have this bad take.
Also. Can you name the players on the Jags (who have won 4 games in 2 years) that are untouchable? Outside of Trevor (who was a rookie), not a single Jag is untouchable.
Being a leader means you stand up to bullies. I thought all young players wanted to standup for rights, bullying, injustice, etc. Trevor, Jones, and few others not on rookie deals should have said something instead of doing nothing. Standing by and doing nothing is accepting the behavior. There are others who could have said something and potentially been cut but that shouldn't have mattered if they were actually bothered by what was happening.
(03-22-2022, 12:19 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: My husband and I were just discussing this and we both wondered how on earth Meyer and Tebow are BFF. I guess a man's personal convictions and their judge of character aren't always one and the same. I'm not a fan of Tebow but I'm not not a fan either. Mostly I feel indifferent about him and don't know anything much about him but I've always thought he had high moral character to go with those convictions.
If he is best buddies with Meyer my opinion of Tebow has changed. You become who you surround yourself with.
Yep I don't see how Tebow could just overlook that. You can live with things you can't change but if Tebow is that close to him, he should have said something. He should have let it be known he wasn't ok with him treating people like that.
(03-22-2022, 01:20 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: I don't think it's that strange since I don't think Meyer ever believed there was a problem with Tebow's transcripts. In fact Tebow was the golden boy and I'd expect Meyer to understand that he needed different treatment than some anonymous player at another position.
Tebow's transcripts needed some home schooling help. Meyer also overlooked a lot of stuff at UF for grads and crime, so he isn't wrong that the players he recruited had a lot of issues. I'm guessing the comment was viewed as a racial stereotype though.
Being a leader means you also know when to stand and when to stand aside. As a head of household and major breadwinner in a family, you don't risk your career calling out your boss or worse until you know that action won't bite you in the butt. Sure Urbz was a sphincter on the practice field, but at that time he still had the media, the owner, and (some of) the fans thinking he was the hero we needed to turn the ship around. Your first public move as a player on a new team is to complain that he's mean, or curses, or is an idiot? Good luck getting a call from the other teams when he buries you on the roster or uses his charm with the media to paint you as the problem instead. Now that he's gone, you are hearing a lot more of this coming to light (from guys no longer on the team, mind you) because these guys are smart enough to know retribution is out of the equation.
With regard to Timmah, I think Urbz absolutely turns it on and off depending on his audience. I have a feeling he has his favorites, and treats them like the favorite son while smearing the lesser guys. I'd venture that Hyde never got near the criticism for failure that JRob or other backs would, for the same reason. We don't know exactly when this exchange occurred, whether Teebz was still on the roster, or if Urbz had his outburst in front of the whole team or just a distinct unit; While leopards don't change their spots, it was probably a case of mutual appreciation; if not for Urbz, Teebs likely doesn't have much of his fortune, and vice versa. That may lead to turning a blind eye to one's faults. It may also be a situation where Timmy thought he could do more goodwill by being closer to Urbz than not, we don't really know.
