(05-20-2022, 04:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-20-2022, 04:07 PM)Firesky Wrote: In hindsight with Free Agency and the draft behind us, i'm kind of glad we didn't draft a WR. Last season our WR's ran the wrong routes far too often and it led to picks on those plays the majority of the time. I think what Trevor needs are vets who know the playbook and make the right reads for their option routes so that they're on the same page with the young QB and can help his development. We don't need more growing pains at WR if our QB is trying to grow himself as well. The value at each pick just didn't seem to be there and i'd rather not reach for anyone in what was a very top heavy draft at the position.

Kirk was a great addition (the contract isn't as bad as it appears). And Zay Jones is a hard worker and professional (nothing to write home about, but may be a great blocker for our run game and redzone target as we lack size on the outside). The only thing I wish we did was give Chark the same 1 year $10 million that Detroit handed him, it's a lot cheaper than I thought he'd command and while he's never quite lived up to that probowl season he had, he was definitely our most explosive playmaker before he went down last season.

Also regardless of who plays, just catch the ball. The amount of drops last year was  far too many for a professional football team; that killed drives and as frustrating as it was for fans I can only imagine how Trevor felt.

I've been wanting to compare and contrast drop rates and this presents a good opportunity.

Jags 2021 WR/TE drop rates: 

Marvin Jones:  73 catches - 832 yards - 1.7% drop rate
Laviska Shenault: 63 catches - 619 yards -  8.0% drop rate
Laquon Treadwell: 33 catches - 434 yards - 5.9% drop rate
Dan Arnold:  28 catches - 324 yards -   4.9% drop rate
Jamal Agnew:  24 catches - 229 yards - 2.0% drop rate
O'Shaughnessy -  24 catches -  244 yards - 8.8% drop rate

Projected New Jags 2022 WR/TE drop rates from 2021:

C. Kirk:  77 for 982 - 5.8% drop rate 
Z. Jones: 47 for 546 - 2.9% drop rate
E. Engram: 46 for 408 - 8.2% drop rate

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O'Shaugnessy dropped a lot of catchable balls last year and Engram did too. 
Engram is a more dynamic player - so the caught passes should;d amount to more if he's healthy long enough. 

Both Marvin and Zay Jones are very consistent catchers. 

Agnew had few drops but we'll have to wait to see how much of a role he's given in the pass game. 

Treadwell had a pretty average drop rate number, just a shade under the mark you'd like to see. 

Arnold - pretty average rate. 

Shenault's drop rate in preseason could determine his fate.
 His number last year was bad and his rookie year (3.8%) was very good. Will he acclimate? Your guess is as good as mine. His impressive 389 yards after catch and 10 broken tackles last year could be very valuable if he can get his hands back to form.

What was Charks rate? Also it's not just the % of drops, it's also the timing of them and the fact that they're dropping darts and well thrown balls. I forgot to mention in my first post but seperation was arguably as big an issue as the drops were. I just felt like besides Agnew in flashes and Chark in the first 3 weeks that NO ONE got open enough to generate a consistent passing offense.

I think they need to use Shenault like Deebo Samuel. reverses, screens, handoffs. His route running is poor and he doesnt' catch the ball consistently enough for me (8% is gross, thats about 4x as many as MJJ) he's a bulldozer once he has the rock but the problem has been getting it to him in the right scheme/space to make plays once it's there.

Engram has a reputation for drops; im surprised Kirk has 5-6% as well, I thought he was rather sure handed. I'm also curious to see when in games the drops occured, not just quarter but down and distance as well. It felt like on 2nd and long and on any 3rd down we had that the ball was hitting the turf. I strongly suspect that Sanjay Lal did little to contribute to the WR's development and him and Urban combined led to some extreme regression as opposed to how good most of the same guys looked under Keenan's tutelage. Really hoping that Pederson & Chris Jackson can turn this group around.

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