(06-12-2022, 05:06 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-12-2022, 04:42 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Why?

Admittedly I was not en economics or finance major, so you may need to dumb it down for me, but if an average WR gets paid an excessive amount in what is, by its very nature a restricted market, why wouldn't the upper end of the market adjust upward to put salaries in line?

1. The Mike Williams deal happened before the Kirk deal 

2. The Kirk deal is structured WAYY differently then all of those it supposedly inflated (lower % of guaranteed $$ and a two year team out clause most notably. 

3. Single Outliers don't shift market behavior meaningfully. Trends do. 

 4. Individual teams who want their guy will pay what they can to get him - but if they are letting an agent bully the price up on a Tyreek Hill "because of" Christian Kirk - they are simply bad negotiators and their behavior is contributing to a market shift as much as - or more than the Kirk deal.

1.  Williams and Kirk are 2 totally different players lol.   Williams is a deal I would call a team friendly deal.  1 is a guy that could be a number 1 on a lot of teams and the other is a good slot WR.  Can Kirk improve on the outside? Hopefully, but his deal is based on what they are hoping he can do not on what he has done.

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(06-12-2022, 10:15 AM)Upper Wrote:

(06-10-2022, 07:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The only market he set or inflated was the "second tier receiver on a short term deal" market. 

You think the dolphins paid Tyreek Hill 72 mil guaranteed with 120 mil potential earnings and 52 mil UP FRONT, because Kirk got $37 mil guaranteed? 

Bruh, it's apples and oranges. Both the players, and the terms of the contracts. One did not influence the other.

From the way things sound, I think the Packers were going to move on from Davante regardless...but I think that Tyreek would still be a Chief and AJ Brown would still be a Titan if we didn't sign Kirk. He absolutely raised both of those guys deals by mid 7 figures a year. Kirk also has a lot to do with Deebo and Metcalf's strained relationships with their teams.

Yup, agreed

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(06-12-2022, 10:15 AM)Upper Wrote:

(06-10-2022, 07:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The only market he set or inflated was the "second tier receiver on a short term deal" market. 

You think the dolphins paid Tyreek Hill 72 mil guaranteed with 120 mil potential earnings and 52 mil UP FRONT, because Kirk got $37 mil guaranteed? 

Bruh, it's apples and oranges. Both the players, and the terms of the contracts. One did not influence the other.

From the way things sound, I think the Packers were going to move on from Davante regardless...but I think that Tyreek would still be a Chief and AJ Brown would still be a Titan if we didn't sign Kirk. He absolutely raised both of those guys deals by mid 7 figures a year. Kirk also has a lot to do with Deebo and Metcalf's strained relationships with their teams.

Yup, agreed

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